i dont usually comment on other organisations matters ,but in this case it's already widely discussed.. kicking more than 2-3 members should imo be done by posting a warning on private forums to notify the rest of the leadership (to avoid bias and a single perspective on the situation), not a direct action unless otherwise stated in HQ guidelines. what i dont see fit is removing a potential subleader from a squad, the situation could be approached differently by questioning the wrong-doing Hq of his intentions and eventually applying a policy against kicking inactive members (of which PC and SAPA has) but doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned to ICE HQ members, causing a misunderstanding from what i see) now, making a public statement on your situation is kinda pointless, wouldn't it be better to talk to eachother and figure out a way to solve it rather than going to the opposite side? heck if someone from our academy wrongly kicks 5 active cadets i would talk to the instructor and inform him/her of our punishment policy... nothing to get mad about, sure he may have overlooked a set of rules but that wouldn't justify anything close to a demotion. there really isn't anything to go all nuts about.. reunite as a whole and get over it my sirs :sunglasses: