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@Crash said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: @Crash said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: @Crash said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN before 2016 CLO and DE would have it and noone complained mainly because people were used to it and also because people could understand that's why they were special groups and had special scripts as rzz0 said now it's just sitting there waiting for a war to happen, so no arresting a CLO won't be impossible ofc some will be supper hard but once again you are arresting a CLO not a gang member so don't go alone or make sure to have good tactics to make sure he doesn't got the time to aim at you and take the shot Man you don't understand what I mean, For example you are a cop and you are chasing some crims outside the jail and there's a CLO with them, And then the CLO kills you with only 1 shot sniper, It will be boring as fuck lol so does DE to the criminals you cant just thing against you , thing in the middle of both partys DE can handle CLO but I say that it will be boring if CLO can use headshot towards regular players... I say that CLO/DE should use HS towards eachothers only and not regular players why would it be boring when already many suggested first a bigger reward and second you are wrong wont be boring its gonna be way more of a rush since you know you must be fast and precise when trying to arrest one of them otherwise they can end up killing you before this was yeeted when i started playing in the ends of 2013 i remember getting such a rush everytime i arrested a clo because i knew that they were hard (talking about the days where if they had armour they couldnt even be jailed untill you removed it ) and it felt so good but now? its like i think was rampage that said they are closer to a level 5 gang then anything else arresting a clo shouldnt be easy should be hard and should have is challanges and just like clo can fuck up cops DE can fuck up crims since the groups are both there to balance eachother Lol the players that said they agree about the suggestions are criminals only and only cops are saying no because criminals will not fight CLO and chase them like cops -_-

@nicus said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN If you think its that easy to HS everyone then it clearly shows you never used it online. Nah I don't say it's so easy but some players has a nice mouse and they can aim well and I say that because I got killed many times from their sniper so what do you think about HS with a nice mouse to aim ?

@Crash said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: @Crash said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN before 2016 CLO and DE would have it and noone complained mainly because people were used to it and also because people could understand that's why they were special groups and had special scripts as rzz0 said now it's just sitting there waiting for a war to happen, so no arresting a CLO won't be impossible ofc some will be supper hard but once again you are arresting a CLO not a gang member so don't go alone or make sure to have good tactics to make sure he doesn't got the time to aim at you and take the shot Man you don't understand what I mean, For example you are a cop and you are chasing some crims outside the jail and there's a CLO with them, And then the CLO kills you with only 1 shot sniper, It will be boring as fuck lol so does DE to the criminals you cant just thing against you , thing in the middle of both partys DE can handle CLO but I say that it will be boring if CLO can use headshot towards regular players... I say that CLO/DE should use HS towards eachothers only and not regular players

@Crash said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN before 2016 CLO and DE would have it and noone complained mainly because people were used to it and also because people could understand that's why they were special groups and had special scripts as rzz0 said now it's just sitting there waiting for a war to happen, so no arresting a CLO won't be impossible ofc some will be supper hard but once again you are arresting a CLO not a gang member so don't go alone or make sure to have good tactics to make sure he doesn't got the time to aim at you and take the shot Man you don't understand what I mean, For example you are a cop and you are chasing some crims outside the jail and there's a CLO with them, And then the CLO kills you with only 1 shot sniper, It will be boring as fuck lol

@Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: @Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN Open TAB and check how much Offical Gang + Criminals are spawned, probably around 100 Now check CLO, probably 5 You have 100 criminals to arrest yet you're complaining about the 5 that you cant, which technically you can, you'll just need a bit more skill and thats why im suggesting a bigger reward! Dont you people like a challange? I like challenges if it's fair challenge and balanced :) You started playing the server after headshot got removed, how do you know if its unfair when you've never experienced it? Anyways im not gonna reply to ur posts anymore you seem to not understand. Even if I didn't see it happening I can just imagine how it will work

@Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN Open TAB and check how much Offical Gang + Criminals are spawned, probably around 100 Now check CLO, probably 5 You have 100 criminals to arrest yet you're complaining about the 5 that you cant, which technically you can, you'll just need a bit more skill and thats why im suggesting a bigger reward! Dont you people like a challange? I like challenges if it's fair challenge and balanced :)

@Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: @Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN Do you even read what i post? I already said we can disable headshot at activities such as JB/BR/SR, then the only time you will get headshotted is when you are chasing a CLO member (which no one forces you to do and considering the fact that CLO is probably 1% of the wanted criminals, you're not doing it much anyways) I even came up with the idea of giving cops a bigger reward for arresting CLO members. All you do is act like you will get headshotted 24/7, and i can assure you its not even gonna be like that, in a SR you will just get killed by criminals with M4 Lol it's even worst if a CLO member will headshot you while you are chasing him, What if you are far away from a CLO member and you are trying to chase and arrest him, And then he headshots you so you die, It will be unfair as fuck to criminals, I honestly didnt understand anything and i dont think you can get my point so im gonna try to make it easy: You are a cop, you are driving your car on LV highway and you see a CLO member, that CLO member has headshot, if you dont chase him he will not shoot you! If you chase him he might headshot you! Lol and why we would get scared from chasing CLO while we can make it balanced and disallow headshot on regular players or even let SAES without headshot ! Like CLO isn't a criminal ? We should arrest anyone whenever we want and not just getting scared from CLO just because they got headshot -_-

@Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN Do you even read what i post? I already said we can disable headshot at activities such as JB/BR/SR, then the only time you will get headshotted is when you are chasing a CLO member (which no one forces you to do and considering the fact that CLO is probably 1% of the wanted criminals, you're not doing it much anyways) I even came up with the idea of giving cops a bigger reward for arresting CLO members. All you do is act like you will get headshotted 24/7, and i can assure you its not even gonna be like that, in a SR you will just get killed by criminals with M4 and CS, these guns are way easier to hit. Like literally think about it for a second: Imagine a SR, there are 15 criminals with M4 and CS on top and 1 CLO with headshot, who do you think is gonna kill you faster lmao? I will also again suggest you to try headshot for yourself to see that its NOT easy to hit. Lol it's even worst if a CLO member will headshot you while you are chasing him, What if you are far away from a CLO member and you are trying to chase and arrest him, And then he headshots you so you die, It will be unfair as fuck to criminals, Headshot should be used towards special groups only and not regular players, Like DE can't use headshot towards criminals and CLO can't use headshot towards cops, It will be more balanced and if you don't like it then don't even add it lol

@Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN I play with a mouse that costs around 3 euro, i'd still consider myself pretty decent at shooting, and even tho im pretty decent, headshot is still NOT easy to hit for me especially on a running target, imagine hitting a sniper shot but now imagine hitting it on an even smaller hitbox. Like i said ANY of you could go spawn criminal and experience how headshot feels at SF turfs by doing /assist You guys act like 50 players ingame are gonna get headshot, there are usually around 5 CLO's spawned, around the same amount of DE's too. The only special things CLO and DE currently have is: 1)Armor (only good if you're trying to kill us 2)Hydras, Hunters and Tanks (We only use those against each others, they're never used against regular players) 3)If you're high ranked you will get dual wielded weapons (again, most of the members do not have them) Thats it, literally only 3 things thay dont even feel special. We are not suggesting aimbot or anything insanely OP, we are suggesting headshot, it has been here for a lot of years and no one seemed to mind it because it is not an easy ability to use I just want the groups to feel like what they were supposed to be, right now i feel like a gang member with armor. It will not only make the groups more fun, but it'll motivate people to try and join them just like before. Please consider what im writing and think about it logically. And now just gonna copy paste what i posted in the old topic incase anyone didnt read that: I think headshot should also be enabled for HLS too, they're pretty much as special as DE/CLO Anyways to anyone thinking its gonna be too OP, well in a way it might be, its a one shot kill but also its not easy at all to hit unless the person you're shooting is standing still. Headshot got removed in 2016 (afaik) all those years before that it was there and no one seemed to complain about it, people were actually tryharding to join groups in which they could use special abilities (including me) back then actually joining a special group was a dream. We can also disable it at SR / JB / BR because at those places i wouldnt see it being very good, if it is kept at those places then maybe headshot kill arrest shouldnt be a thing Also i think in places such as BR's this would to a certain extent benefit the cop side since if CLO gets headshotted getting back inside the bank without getting arrested is not easy at all, then DE/HLS would just be able to headshot crims and clean up the bank, i dont know what the current % of successful BRs is, but imo if headshot comes back it'd go down (as it should because BRs shouldnt have a high success rate) We could think of giving some kind of reward to cops who arrest CLO members (maybe more money per arrest?) this i guess can be thought about. To cops who think it might be op, well it wont change much imo, most of the crims you arrest daily are not even CLO members, our activity is not that high, and you could also tryhard joining DE/HLS so you get headshot too. Edit: Maybe we should just let DE respond to activities such as JB/BR/SR, but only if CLO is present then only then the headshot script would work, or give a command to DE like /checkbank which would let them know if any CLO is inside the bank so they could respond immediately. Listen brother, 1-CLO activity is higher than DE activity and we all know that 2- We can let Headshot gets added only if it will be used towards special groups and not regular players, Ofc we wont let CLO getting a headshot to just kill us with 1 shot only easy lol, And about "tryharding" to join DE or HLS, What if a player can't join a special group and he gets killed ezpz from CLO ? Cops are fighting CLO like criminals the whole time while criminals are fighting DE only if there's a CLO there, So don't you think that if we fight a CLO and he can use his sniper with only 1 shot and he kills us will not be unfair ? You just focus about CLO getting headshot you don't give a fuck about what will happen to cops when chasing CLO or fighting them, And about "nOnE fOrCeD yOu tO cHaSe cLo" what if we want to arrest CLO because they are threatening at SR/BR/JB ? Do you want us to run like rats because they can kill us with 1 sniper shot ? Do you think it will be fair ? You saying that the community wants HS to get added back ? Most and maybe all of them are criminals / CLO voting for yes just because they wants to kill cops ezpz, Like if you are a criminal and you killed a DE with headshot WOOOW YOU EARNED MORE XP TO JOIN CLO ! You guys are trying to make HS comes back just to have fun and kill DE/cops to have more chances to join CLO, You don't give a simple fuck about cop side like how it will be unfair to them if they are fighting CLO at JB or BR and CLO just shots them only 1 shot and then rip all cops, You just want to see us running like chickens and dying so you can have fun and escape from getting arrested, Criminals are thinking that SAES are made for them only to have fun and get money they don't say for example, It will be unfair towards cops if CLO got headshot, And btw if you will say "DE are here too and they will fight CLO" What if DE are not online or afking or any thing ? It happens many times DE are afking while there are CLOs at JB or BR, For god sake stop selfishness thinking, Stop thinking that SAES are made for you only to kill cops and escape from them then you go to earn money ezpz -_-

@Cornelius said in HS back for CLO & DE: if you cant get better mouse tamsouh, not my problem, I am getting marker arrested and admin says get better PC you are not alone Man why we should even get a nice mouse if we can just let it stay like that without HS ?

@KARIM said in HS back for CLO & DE: i vote no because tamsouh dont have money to buy new mouse to aim ::: srsly fuck off tamsouh ::: @KARIM Lol you are really stupid, What is funny in adding a system to make CLO kills cops with 1 shot ? It's not even balanced, btw why do you care like that ? 1-you are a criminal and you are not fighting CLO like cops 2- you are not even in a special group so why are you even talking asslicker -_-

@Human_ said in HS back for CLO & DE: I guess all CLO and DE has bad mouse Haha try to be a cop and chase a CLO and then you will see if his mouse good or bad

@Cornelius said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: Not my problem if you are blind or if you have a bad mouse others can aim well and they can ez kill the cops like maybe they are having a nice mouse etc.. Simple answer from me then, to your previous argument: Don't be blind, or get better mouse, or just get better at aim :slightly_smiling_face: Lol and what if you don't have enough money to buy a nice mouse and aim well ? Why don't we make it stay like that and if it will be added back then disallow it to be used on normal players as I said before

@Cornelius said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: @Zwolle said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN HS is only sniper and its hard to hs with it And what if you have a nice mouse and it's easy to move your mouse and scope ? it's still hard ? shut your ass I've been playing this server since 2013 and I still cant damage player with big ass sawed-off aim circle, you think I am bad, no, in my screen I hit it, idk what in others. When it comes to police, ooga booga has to shoot one bullet which if you hit it you arrest 100% @Cornelius said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: @Zwolle said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN HS is only sniper and its hard to hs with it And what if you have a nice mouse and it's easy to move your mouse and scope ? it's still hard ? shut your ass I've been playing this server since 2013 and I still cant damage player with big ass sawed-off aim circle, you think I am bad, no, in my screen I hit it, idk what in others. When it comes to police, ooga booga has to shoot one bullet which if you hit it you arrest 100% Not my problem if you are blind or if you have a bad mouse others can aim well and they can ez kill the cops like maybe they are having a nice mouse etc..

@Zwolle said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN HS is only sniper and its hard to hs with it And what if you have a nice mouse and it's easy to move your mouse and scope ? it's still hard ?

@SNome said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN tamsouh :face_palm: @SNome snome :face_palm:

@Gengar said in HS back for CLO & DE: @VayraN said in HS back for CLO & DE: Funny how criminals and CLO keeps crying about adding HS back and removing kill-arrest Noone is asking for kill-arrest here to be removed. I even agreed in the first post that DE headshot should also be kill-arrest feature in BRs and JBs. None is asking for kill-arrest to be removed ?

Funny how criminals and CLO keeps crying about adding HS back and removing kill-arrest, If HS will be added back then it should be disabled on normal players like CLO can't use headshot towards cops and DE can't use headshot towards criminals it will be balanced, but don't suggest to add HS and make CLO shots a cop 1 shot and he kills him lol, I see that criminals are trying all the time to suggest something to make them more op than cops just to have fun and not to make the both side balanced like they say -_-

It will be unfair towards cops because as @jonathan959 cops are always playing towards CLO while DE fights them only at BR and JB etc.. like imagine a cop tries to arrest a CLO and then he kills the cop with 1 shot with sniper, It will be unfair and DE will not respond if it's not a JB or a BR, it shouldn't be added back

Happy new year 2020 everyone I hope you all have a nice year and you don't lose anyone you love and I wish you a happy year guys and I hope you have a great time with your family and your friends forever inchallah <3 please say here what do you wish to happen in 2020 ? actually I wish to be always with my friends and family, again happy new year everyone <3 :heavy_heart_exclamation_mark_ornament:

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Lol I don't agree that kill-arrest should be removed I agree with @kipt

@Patrol said in Remove Interior restrictions: Morning, So it is a very simple suggestion. Since a couple of years ago, it was decided idk by who or why that private interiors would be restricted to the group itself only / gangs/ squads only. I understand that it is cool to have something that only your squad can see but what is the point of having a super duper cool base interior if nobody can actually see it ? When that restriction was added some part of the RP side of SAES died with it too, it was pretty cool to actually get inside gang interiors to RP, spy or whatever as HLS for example. Some groups i understand that would need to have that restriction in some areas of their base such as DE or CLO but for the rest ... comon, it was dam cool to get inside bases. Yea I strongly agree with you Patrol that would be cool as fuck if we get inside any interior we want inside any base !

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Well, My suggestion is about disallowing crims/cops from killing eachother at jail, That will avoid us from getting punished for dming or something, Like if i'm a cop I kill another cop by wrong and I get stars and maybe reported, A crim kills another crim by wrong and others counts that as avoid, That is annoying af and it will be nice if we see that removed like we can't kill admins, Maybe that get added at jail too, Cops can't kill cops and crims can't kill crims so we avoid getting punished for helping another crim to avoid arrest or dming.