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@Joe said in CIA Declassification of Government case relating FBI: To be fair to Ardron, IG used the official FBI forum account to announce his lack of support for the government. To attribute this coup to the FBI is not totally baseless. Had he not done this in his role as HQ in FBI, nobody would of attached this to your squad. There's a reason groups are distancing themselves from him at this point. You can't be surprised him having the FBI tag on forums, speaking as the FBI HQ and making a post on the official FBI account makes people think "hmm what are the FBI doing" The fault here lies solely on your organisational structure and your lack of control to allow someone to take your squad and make sweeping statements in its name. Do not blame Ardron, or anyone else, for their interpretation of those statements or their attribution of those statements to the FBI, from where they originated. Your unprofessionalism is disappointing Joe. Again you seem it necessary to slag of the FBI as a whole by saying the fault lies with our organisational structure and lack of control. We can't stop people from making sudden actions if we dont know they are about to happen. Think practicably... If you want to discuss this further please personal message the FBI Director Qweezy instead of slagging off FBI as it is not fair or professional.

@Ardron @IG8820 @Joe I think this has indeed been taken out of proportion. I don't think its fair to bring in discord related discussion to SAES RP. That is indeed called metagaming and unfair towards anyone involved. Instead of applying this to one person Ardron, in this case being IG8820, you have applied it to everyone in FBI which is unfair and not true. 95% of FBI were not involved, so your stating that FBI as an Police Organisation was responsible for what happened and calling FBI out, that is not fair on FBI as a whole. To remind you there were various people involved from various squads and organisations. I wont be calling out these organisations as there is no need too. The 'coup' that took place was something which could have been organised better @IG8820. Roleplay should be organised between two parties and be agreed before it occurs. I understand your ideology behind it but you defiantly took the wrong approach at it from what I can tell. @Joe I would like to remind you that the last 5 elections have all included a coup . During my time as Secret Service Director a specific criminal organisation attacked the white house multiple times, declaring it as 'roleplay' but in fact the Director of the Secret Service (being me at the time) did not agree to the roleplay. However it still occurred. This was something which was supported by Admins and staff. I find it very unfair and dishonest from the SAES HQ and the SAES Team to be punishing/calling out people from doing wrong when in fact it was perfectly acceptable when it suited them. This should have been handled privately between yourself, Ardron and IG. From that private conversation you could have then developed the government roleplay rules to put in place which you have already announced in this topic. Once those rules were fully developed you could have then announced them to everyone, so everyone is aware of the new rules and then everyone has a fair chance to abide by them. However, instead you decided to take sides and immediately and harshly accuse someone of being a 'sore looser' which is unprofessional. In this situation, no one is in the right. Everyone has done wrong in some way. Now being men and not kids, can you take this to private talks and messages and @Ardron delete this thread please as it is directed towards the FBI as a whole which is not fair. @IG8820 I would suggest you remove your topic about FBI separation as I think this is something that needs to be discussed between the FBI HQ team not just decided by yourself. @Joe please dont take it as if I am 'having a go' as I am not. I just think this could have been handled a lot better. I have made my fair few mistakes in the past and I learned from them. Everyone makes mistakes gents but lets act like men and move forward and deal with this in the correct fashion. This topic and IG topic has benefited NO ONE. Side Note: Don't rip into my literature and punctuation please, that was least on my mind when writing this.

Case .4 Case Name: Coup de grace Participants: FBI, DE, HLS, Secret Service and other squads Description: The last few hours on San Andreas have been a nightmare for the people. There has been chaos and anarchy over the newly elected President, who is known for his ties with the local gangs and criminals of San Andreas. After the Desert Eagles saw the outcome of the election and learned what the newly elected President was planning, General Payne of the Desert Eagles decided to organise an event which could change the fate of San Andreas. General Payne called the local police organisations which included FBI, FOX and SWAT. General Payne had close relations with the Secret Service Director who himself could not accept the newly elected president. With the local squads, DE and SS working together they had one last ally to assemble. Homeland Security were requested to assist with this important mission and they did not hesitate to join. General.Payne had all the men needed and so the planning begun. All of the assembled allies arrived at the Desert Eagles Airbase in Bone County. The men were thanked for making the right to decision to join forces even though some organisations were not the best of friends. On request from the General, all the men head down to the planning room to start their planning of operation 'Coup de grace'. The planning took around 5 hours before all the organisations could come to an agreement. It was agreed that the Secret Service would stand on guard in the White House to allow the police organisations entry through the back of the White House. Desert Eagles, Homeland Security and the rest of the police organisations would come from the car park and attack at dawn, to ensure they would have enough cover and also be able to get the critical shot that they needed. The plan went perfectly. Both teams were set up in their positions. None of the Presidents criminal allies were aware of their presence and not aware of what was about to happen. At the precise time planned, the gun shot was heard. A false idol who was once standing tall for a nation whom which he wanted to corrupt was no longer standing but laying flat in a pool of his own blood. The President was no more. The plan had succeeded. The Secret Service came in from the East and swarmed up the remaining criminals and forced them to surrender. The criminals saw that they were outmatched and had no possibility of escape. With the President gone and his criminal organisations taken into custody San Andreas was again a safe haven for the people. The criminals were later trialled for treason against the people of San Andreas. DE, HLS, SS and the police organisations were present at the trial to witness the jury's verdict. All but two of the criminals were found guilty of treason against the state and they were sentenced to 12 years at the San Fierro Correctional Facility. The allies that assembled together on that day were overwhelmed with joy. They have finally seen the justice that San Andreas deserved. They then decided that a celebration was in order and headed to the local police bar for a good old pint. Maybe now, San Andreas can get the President it needs.

Event 5 Event: Parkour Reward: $3,000,000 Winner: PerroLoco Screenshots: ::: :::

Activity: Total members online 7 Date: 3rd of April, 2019 Screenshots: One was spawned as Civ for DE training, so only 6 visible in the below screenshot. ::: :::

Part I: How much have you donated for the sever? 60 When was the last time you requested a donation reward change? March 2017 Why do you need this change? Because I would like my 60 worth Links to your donation topics: too far back to find Links to your previous donation changes requests: https://archive.saesrpg.uk/community/topic/90382-joshbond-reward-change/?tab=comments#comment-1691151 ======================================================================== Part II: What I Want to be Removed Vehicle 1: N/A none in the server ======================================================================== Part III: What I Want to be Added Vehicle 1&2&3: Both Police (can they be placed next to eachother in the 3 spaces seen in the image below please) Location: FBI base Username: joshbond, benlaidabdou, johnturner, impactomar https://imgur.com/6DzDbUU Vehicle 4: Police Location: LVPD Username: joshbond, benlaidabdou, johnturner, impactomar https://imgur.com/FlAK699 Vehicle 5: Police Location: LSPD Username: joshbond, benlaidabdou, johnturner, impactomar https://imgur.com/bgGqZl3 Vehicle 6: Police Location: SFPD Username: joshbond, benlaidabdou, johnturner, impactomar https://imgur.com/aLGMEGp

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@Ikzelf said in Kill Arresting in JB: @Joshbond said in Kill Arresting in JB: @Joshbond said in Kill Arresting in JB: However this requires effort and scripting and I can't remember the last time SAES had a big ingame change. The HQ and devs cant even agree on a fucking new server build, 2.0? Project whatever nano was doing? pfff good luck with changing anything ikzelf For starters you might not want to insult clan members, including developers and HQ. And no need to tag me since I ain't in charge of this. I just decided to see what this leads to as I was hearling complaints from people who felt like this was a trial period and eventually the system be removed or changed. Since that didn't happen people were complaining. I never insulted anyone, I simply said the HQ and devs cant agree on a fucking new server build, which is true. Hence why 2.0 never came out and the new project that nano was doing, wont be coming out.

@Joshbond said in Kill Arresting in JB: The only other solution would be to change the layout of the jail so its not just 1 fucking corridor to the cells and gate. Make it so there is 3 ways of getting to the cell area which than prevents crim camping and spraying in 1 area but instead can be outflanked from 3 directions, however this would still not be balanced for cops. To make it balance and fair I would suggest that police officers have a room inside the jail which only cops can access and this room has a health station for JUST cops, so crims cant use it. Would help officers with attacking the jail while they only have fucking tazers and batons. That would make it balance. Could set a timer for each individual cop (not a collective timer) so the health station can only can be used every 1 minute to prevent overusing it. However this requires effort and scripting and I can't remember the last time SAES had a big ingame change. The HQ and devs cant even agree on a fucking new server build, 2.0? Project whatever nano was doing? pfff good luck with changing anything ikzelf @Ikzelf I will tag you again, @Ikzelf I think if my idea would be implemented it could solve the problem in the jail.

@Marko said in Kill Arresting in JB: Well, Money can buy a lot of stuff but still not the sense of sense of humor James does lack the intelligence to produce a good joke

The only other solution would be to change the layout of the jail so its not just 1 fucking corridor to the cells and gate. Make it so there is 3 ways of getting to the cell area which than prevents crim camping and spraying in 1 area but instead can be outflanked from 3 directions, however this would still not be balanced for cops. To make it balance and fair I would suggest that police officers have a room inside the jail which only cops can access and this room has a health station for JUST cops, so crims cant use it. Would help officers with attacking the jail while they only have fucking tazers and batons. That would make it balance. Could set a timer for each individual cop (not a collective timer) so the health station can only can be used every 1 minute to prevent overusing it. However this requires effort and scripting and I can't remember the last time SAES had a big ingame change. The HQ and devs cant even agree on a fucking new server build, 2.0? Project whatever nano was doing? pfff good luck with changing anything ikzelf @Ikzelf

Happy birthday SAES Maybe SSB will return to SAES.

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@chief said in SAES Vice City - Beta #1 - Thankyou: Is it OK if I adverted SAES on most of MTA RP servers :thinking_face: ? Thats just a dick move and would make SAES look bad.

@crash said in New police spawn: B@joshbond said in New police spawn: @crash said in New police spawn: @starwars said in New police spawn: @drot said in New police spawn: @starwars said in New police spawn: People who aren't interested in the serious police role and want ot arrest randomly should not be given easy ways. (Talking about access to pc vehicles by the troopers). Serious police role? Few things come to mind next to arresting, which from your words seem like the exact opposite. Or do you perhaps presume that only RP is serious enough? Let's say that I'm a player which prefers not to be member of a squad, this doesn't mean that I should be crippled by only having access to slow police cars! You might now say; yes but you can join PC! Whatsoever with PC, RP pull-overs are mandatory and once again I'd be set multiple restrictions all in order to get a slightly faster car which then again I must primarily use for RP purposes. At the end of the day in this scenario I'm an experienced player with solid amount of time spent in game, who wants to chase and arrest wanted players. For what reason should I be denied access to faster(normal) cars? Lets not forget that this is an RPG server, and mainly focuses on "Role Play Game", or, SAES "San Andreas Emergency Services". All of that stands for roleplay purposes, and if you are not interested in roleplaying, I highly doubt this is a good server for your preferences. True, this is not a strict roleplay server, but it is still supposed to go ALONG with the roleplay. If you prefer just running around, killing and arresting, plenty of deathmatching servers are out there. If you're an experienced player with solid amount of time spent in game you would not simply and plainly want to chase wanted players and arrest them without the tiniest chance or idea of offering a roleplay. There are other options, SWAT for an instance doesn't offer roleplay during their arrests. Regarding your complains, it would make things easier for EXPERIENCED players with DECENT amount of hours and ENOUGH brains to not to RANDOMLY arrest LEFT and RIGHT ruining ALL the roleplays. What I offer is an "EASY" for once again an "EXPERIENCED" member to get access to "DECENT" vehicles. And restrict it from the use of abusive and annoying players which have 0 interest in respecting other players. What do you mean SWAT doesn't role-play , Everytime we are out on patrol hunting down high wanted criminals we are role-playing as SWAT role not our fault people think that a role-play is to ask you to stop the car get out do /sur and "let you go with a warning" Crash, I play serious roleplay and I can ensure you that is not roleplay. Firstly, how would you know they are wanted (roleplay) unless they committed the crime in front of you? That is why cops pull over to find out someones name via their ID from which they can determine if they have committed a crime or not by searching their name and details through a police database. So as cops do this in real life, if you done that in the game than you are roleplaying as a cop. Now I understand that in real life SWAT is known for turning up fully armed and equipped to take people down so I can understand why you guys do that as your 'roleplay' ingame however SWAT don't patrol in police cars in real life, so its not really roleplay. TBH this is a roleplaying game not a actual serious roleplay server, not like it used to be. So do whatever you want. I just wanted to point that out. There u go you play on a "real role-play" this is a RPG not everything will be 100 realistic other wise how can a medic revive someone that got shot 500 times,or how can someone be mailed by getting killed. Point is not all rp needs to end up in you getting to go back to murdering a s robbing stores Can't argue with your statement but just wanted to confirm the meaning of roleplay and what SWATS roleplay would actually be. It is only a RPG so just do what you want and have fun :)

@crash said in New police spawn: @starwars said in New police spawn: @drot said in New police spawn: @starwars said in New police spawn: People who aren't interested in the serious police role and want ot arrest randomly should not be given easy ways. (Talking about access to pc vehicles by the troopers). Serious police role? Few things come to mind next to arresting, which from your words seem like the exact opposite. Or do you perhaps presume that only RP is serious enough? Let's say that I'm a player which prefers not to be member of a squad, this doesn't mean that I should be crippled by only having access to slow police cars! You might now say; yes but you can join PC! Whatsoever with PC, RP pull-overs are mandatory and once again I'd be set multiple restrictions all in order to get a slightly faster car which then again I must primarily use for RP purposes. At the end of the day in this scenario I'm an experienced player with solid amount of time spent in game, who wants to chase and arrest wanted players. For what reason should I be denied access to faster(normal) cars? Lets not forget that this is an RPG server, and mainly focuses on "Role Play Game", or, SAES "San Andreas Emergency Services". All of that stands for roleplay purposes, and if you are not interested in roleplaying, I highly doubt this is a good server for your preferences. True, this is not a strict roleplay server, but it is still supposed to go ALONG with the roleplay. If you prefer just running around, killing and arresting, plenty of deathmatching servers are out there. If you're an experienced player with solid amount of time spent in game you would not simply and plainly want to chase wanted players and arrest them without the tiniest chance or idea of offering a roleplay. There are other options, SWAT for an instance doesn't offer roleplay during their arrests. Regarding your complains, it would make things easier for EXPERIENCED players with DECENT amount of hours and ENOUGH brains to not to RANDOMLY arrest LEFT and RIGHT ruining ALL the roleplays. What I offer is an "EASY" for once again an "EXPERIENCED" member to get access to "DECENT" vehicles. And restrict it from the use of abusive and annoying players which have 0 interest in respecting other players. What do you mean SWAT doesn't role-play , Everytime we are out on patrol hunting down high wanted criminals we are role-playing as SWAT role not our fault people think that a role-play is to ask you to stop the car get out do /sur and "let you go with a warning" Crash, I play serious roleplay and I can ensure you that is not roleplay. Firstly, how would you know they are wanted (roleplay) unless they committed the crime in front of you? That is why cops pull over to find out someones name via their ID from which they can determine if they have committed a crime or not by searching their name and details through a police database. So as cops do this in real life, if you done that in the game than you are roleplaying as a cop. Now I understand that in real life SWAT is known for turning up fully armed and equipped to take people down so I can understand why you guys do that as your 'roleplay' ingame however SWAT don't patrol in police cars in real life, so its not really roleplay. TBH this is a roleplaying game not a actual serious roleplay server, not like it used to be. So do whatever you want. I just wanted to point that out.

@blade said in New police spawn: sounds quite useless to me as to what we have now, this would be the exact same. @Blade Did you read it or just look at the comments? By your comment is seems that you did not read it fully which is disappointing. Like I said in my post, the benefit is that it allows more trustworthy people to operate the radio if they want to play cops so there is better communication and roleplay between the police forces. This is very beneficial for for store robberies and banks. The current situation is not very good for those who are in gangs and want to play with their friends on the cop side or for those who are on the fence about joining cops/gangs. Also if this was already in the server, I would not have suggested it lol? The server does not have the same as I have suggested, it has something that does not work and should be replaced by this. Personally if this is not introduced, or something similar, I see it as laziness or the SAES devs are just not willing to make changes which is stupid. A lot of the community have liked this and support this. Usually if your community want it, you introduce it. Not introducing new things, even if they are small, are why people move to other servers or leave MTA completely. I appreciate coding this takes such time and effort but if you want the server to stay alive, make sure there are more new things for the community to play with.

I don't see the problem here? Was it the 'fuck' part or the 'you' part?

@starwars said in New police spawn: @joshbond said in New police spawn: @starwars said in New police spawn: Instead of this, I would just replace with such a system the State Trooper spawn. People who aren't interested in the serious police role and want ot arrest randomly should not be given easy ways. (Talking about access to pc vehicles by the troopers). I do support this idea fully. I dont fully understand exactly what you mean? Care to explain further mate? Well I don't really know how to explain that other than "State Trooper = Police Constable" Just remove what used to be the state trooper, leave the trainees, and add the new role which you suggest. Oh I see, just a different name. State Trooper could work but what about a warden name?

@starwars said in New police spawn: Instead of this, I would just replace with such a system the State Trooper spawn. People who aren't interested in the serious police role and want ot arrest randomly should not be given easy ways. (Talking about access to pc vehicles by the troopers). I do support this idea fully. I dont fully understand exactly what you mean? Care to explain further mate?

Hello all, Its a very simple idea. Introduce a new police spawn at all the PD's and one for the Jail. Call the ones at the PD 'Police Constable' and the ones at the jail 'Police Warden Constable' The difference between a constable and a trainee is that the constable has access to the police radio and their own set of cars at the PD's. To be a police constable you must have 200 hours in game and must make an application to the SAPD which will be required to be accepted to gain access to the spawn. This gives the SAPD more to do as they don't do much at the moment, lets be honest. The application process should not be difficult like for the PC qualification but the application is to show that you want to be serious and have access to a police spawn so you can efficiently use the police radio. This then also prevents noobs and trolls from having access to the police radio as they can only use the trainee position unless they have the minimum hours and have applied and been accepted. Also for older players who do not have the minimum hour count on the scoreboard ingame because it never existed when they played the most, should still be allowed access to the job even if they do not physically have 200 hours recorded on the new scoreboard thing. This would include people like me and others older players. This job should be allowed for everyone, criminals, civilian (oops rip ALT) and cops obviously. @Blade @NanoBob @Mega9

@bunny said in SpoooOOOky Desert Eagles Recruiment 2018: @marko said in SpoooOOOky Desert Eagles Recruiment 2018: @cappo said in SpoooOOOky Desert Eagles Recruiment 2018: You've made it impossible then. Exactly, you won't' be able to find the landing target ! You can't find something that doesn't exist Thats why Bunny is still a virgin, cant find his penis cause it don't exist ;)