0 Rick Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Why criminals cant do /cargrab its fully nonsense. My suggestion is criminals shouldcargrab too....It will be fair and more realistic...There can be rules like,You can't grab car while moving or This vehicle locked,you can't grab.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tut Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 can you add a poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 moley. Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 +1 This could be very useful since there is no glue anymore and be on a top of a car and fall of the whole time is a bit annoying and takes a lot of time so instead, we could actually grab on the car like how cops can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Crash Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Gonna love to see Crims in patriots :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: don't see the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DeletedUser Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 +1 great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DROT Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Given how easy it is to escape arrest using cargrab, no. You can keep spamming it to switch sides of the vehicle, always staying on the opposite side of the cop. You can use it to teleport through walls, for example getting into SR, shooting some cops, then instantly teleporting outside and away from nightstick arresting range. If you're being chased by cops and a random criminal drives by, you can instantly latch onto the vehicle at full speed and disappear in an instant. It voids effects of bullet stun as well as teargas. I suspect it can be used while tased too, just as it can be used while /selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Casuall Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Why you give a strict answer dude. At least we should try it. If majority find no problem so we keep it using, in contrast, the script will be removed like the prior time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nico Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 The fact that criminals "can" abuse it, doesnt mean they will. I dont see why this thing should be a Police thing only, as it can be abused from both sides. Having cops teleport through Walls, as U mentioned above to enter a base? Having them entering SR through walls? Have u seen any cops abuse this? And if so, they get punished for it.Then why would we keep this away from Criminals, as we have the same rights on using a script like this. In my opinion is should be accesable by everyone. Cops, Crims & Civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markus Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @DROT said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:Given how easy it is to escape arrest using cargrab, no. You can keep spamming it to switch sides of the vehicle, always staying on the opposite side of the cop. You can use it to teleport through walls, for example getting into SR, shooting some cops, then instantly teleporting outside and away from nightstick arresting range. If you're being chased by cops and a random criminal drives by, you can instantly latch onto the vehicle at full speed and disappear in an instant. It voids effects of bullet stun as well as teargas. I suspect it can be used while tased too, just as it can be used while /selling.Remember how kill-arrest was a temporary thing? Let this be too ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tut Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 regarding all that bug abuse, i don't think i've seen an issue on our tracker?report bugs here if you know them :sunglasses: https://github.com/saesrpg/saesrpg/issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 KARIM Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @DROT said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:Given how easy it is to escape arrest using cargrab, no. You can keep spamming it to switch sides of the vehicle, always staying on the opposite side of the cop. You can use it to teleport through walls, for example getting into SR, shooting some cops, then instantly teleporting outside and away from nightstick arresting range. If you're being chased by cops and a random criminal drives by, you can instantly latch onto the vehicle at full speed and disappear in an instant. It voids effects of bullet stun as well as teargas. I suspect it can be used while tased too, just as it can be used while /selling.keep abusing it as staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rick Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 @DROT This is a RPG server and criminals know how to hold a bar so this script should added to criminals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DROT Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @Nico said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:Having cops teleport through Walls, as U mentioned above to enter a base? Having them entering SR through walls? Have u seen any cops abuse this? And if so, they get punished for it.No I haven't seen it. You don't seem to understand how cargrab works. You can't teleport away from your car, you can teleport to it only. Which means that to teleport into a SR you'd need to fit a patriot for example, inside the store itself which is plain impossible. This goes for bases too, the cop would need to place his vehicle into the base to be able to cargrab to it from outside, which means that he is already inside the base without ever using the cargrab.The way cargrab functions does not allow cops to get into some place easier, it can be used in a way that lets you get out of those places, which serves no purpose from cops perspective. The way cargrab can be abused is to escape faster, which is the exact opposite of what cops do. Do you see cops trying to escape from criminals, or are criminals trying to escape from cops? Cops gain barely any advantage if they use cargrab during a chase, while many effects of cargrab (some of which I listed in my previous post) are useless to cops, they'd offer great advantage to criminals trying to escape. This is merely because the script allows for a large selection of escape based uses, which only criminals would have benefit of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DROT Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @Jerome-Valeska said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:@DROT This is a RPG server and criminals know how to hold a bar so this script should added to criminals...Surely those same criminals also know how to use a taser and rubber bullets shotgun. They know how to drive cars too, police vehicles are cars. Certainly they know how to press a button to speak on the radio too. Pretty sure they'd know how to pull a bulletproof vest on too.I could go on forever, listing what every person with two living brain cells could realistically do. Yes this is an RPG server, which means that you are playing a role. It doesn't mean that the experience is similar to real life. At some point you need to draw a line and focus on gameplay balance rather than realism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rick Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 @DROT You can arrest us when we are doing jailbreak with killing us.If developers will reject this i will create a topic named like Remove Killing arrest in jail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 FoxZilla Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @Jerome-Valeska If they remove killing arrest in jail, Cops can't stop criminals because jail is small and a lot of criminals shooting to you so what can you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 DeletedUser Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @FoxZilla why not? I be a cop once when jb and i arrest crime only using nightstick if i can why cant other do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rick Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 @FoxZilla Cops superior than us,at least this script should added to criminals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Nico Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @DROT the fact that I dont know how Cargrab works, is true. However, everything that a cop can abuse ( which he wont ), can be the same for Criminals ( which they wont ). So I still dont get the point why this should be a police only thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Casuall Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @FoxZilla excuse me but how long have you been playin this server amk? There was no killing arrest and cops could stop the jailbreak. Why they cant now? Can you please talk a bit logical amk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rick Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 @ccc said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab::::@FoxZilla excuse me but how long have you been playin this server amk? There was no killing arrest and cops could stop the jailbreak. Why they cant now? Can you please talk a bit logical amk?:::Extremely right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Henry Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @DROT said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:@Jerome-Valeska said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:@DROT This is a RPG server and criminals know how to hold a bar so this script should added to criminals...Surely those same criminals also know how to use a taser and rubber bullets shotgun. They know how to drive cars too, police vehicles are cars. Certainly they know how to press a button to speak on the radio too. Pretty sure they'd know how to pull a bulletproof vest on too.I could go on forever, listing what every person with two living brain cells could realistically do. Yes this is an RPG server, which means that you are playing a role. It doesn't mean that the experience is similar to real life. At some point you need to draw a line and focus on gameplay balance rather than realism.Althought you're right on the second part, the first makes no sense at all. Cargrab is not something that would be "rare" to see and I highly doubt it would affect the police side at all, since is has pretty much the same effect as glueing on a picador. If you're so afraid of cargrabbing may be used for teleporting, it's as easy as reducing the range you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Crash Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 If the problem is people gluing to moving vehicles to avoid cops make it like eject where the car needs to be stoped in order to grab on to said vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Stay Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @Henry said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:If you're so afraid of cargrabbing may be used for teleporting, it's as easy as reducing the range you can do it.This is some IQ 250 @Henry i also agree with this statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 JohnTurner Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 @Jerome-Valeska said in [SUGGESTION]Cargrab:@DROT You can arrest us when we are doing jailbreak with killing us.If developers will reject this i will create a topic named like Remove Killing arrest in jail...Sure, remove kill arrest but then also remove ability to sell weapons and drugs inside of the jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rick Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 @JohnTurnerYou have the rights,so if you have a problem of selling drugs/weapons in jail you can create a topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Why criminals cant do /cargrab its fully nonsense. My suggestion is criminals should
cargrab too....It will be fair and more realistic...
There can be rules like,You can't grab car while moving or This vehicle locked,you can't grab....
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