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@Tut-Greco said in Should SAPD HQ make Laws: isn't this something that the active roleplay government should work on? making laws is a role of the government

Congratz

@Gengar said in Use of exploits reminder: Thanks for publicly shaming me. I get it that you wanted me out of the clan and I normally wouldn't even bother posting anything regarding that, I'd just move on with my game and have fun with my friends. But there was no reason whatsoever to shame me like this in front of entire community and that irritated me enough to make this post. Just for the record, I did not try to assist anyone to cover up anything. You have screenshot of the chat, you can clearly see that I advised person involved to cooperate with you guys. The fact that SAES HQ team is twisting everything to suit their own needs is different story. It's no secret that they wanted me out of the clan for quite some time, taking away every bit of access I had with some bullshit excuses with every chance they got. Good for you that you finally found some justification to remove me completely. This announcement alone shows how eager you were. When was the last time you announced clan members who were removed with reasons of their removal? You had people removed from clan because they were deliberately deleting reports of their friends without solving them and none announced anything about that. You had people removed from clan because SAES HQ team has access to read their forum private messages in which, apparently, they were stating their disagreements with some actions from the clan, none ever made announcement regarding that. Let's not mention clan members who were selling benefits on SAES to players for couple of PayPal bucks and some Steam items. And many others who were removed along the way in the past 7 years that I'm here. None ever announced publicly anything about any of them. But hey, let's just shame Gengar and let's ban people. Not only the ones who are abusing (completely fair ban when it comes to them), but also the ones who were just given money from abusers. Since when is it a crime to be on the receiving end of /give command? If you approached the player and asked him to hand you over the money because it came from bug abuse, he would have given it to you without any objection. But no, let's just ban and shame people. Fact that ~[Bone takes money from abusers himself and uses it to sponsor his own events and even buy some fancy properties is no big deal around here. And let's not forget that NanoBob built his own program which automatically inputs numbers for cracking safes in bank robs and gang robs and not only uses it around whenever he likes it, but also distributes it to some other clan members for their own usage. There were times when he was leading his own gang and abusing his access to restart banks in order to use his program, doing a lot more then just 2 bank robs per day]~(red) and yet none ever did anything about it. I guess rules everyone has to follow don't apply once you reach position of SAES HQ. Damn this is some inside story which i would like to forward to our only remaining two most trusted SAES HQ ever @Brophy @Ronseal

@Mega9 said in Increase money rolling or bring 2.0: Economy can't happen before issues with payouts, balancing and bug abusing is resolved. That can't and won't happen overnight, especially when people don't report them to be fixed. Features have been added, sad to see you haven't noticed. Just recently we re-introduced a complete new private vehicle selling system, that itself allows development of new groups, kidnap mode - those are just most recent. Economy is a sensitive topic, you can't even comprehend the amount of work that needs to be done coding-wise, then develop circulating economy and taxation and all the logic that goes into it. Also, not everyone is a fan of losing all their easy-made money, so you have to consider community feedback into equation, what use do you have from a perfect economy system if your player-base drops to 20 concurrent players and you struggle to have any kind of player to player interaction. You can already see from your poll that people have divided opinions. You can help by starting re-balancing all job payouts, after that's done, tweak house pricing and tax, same goes for vehicles. Re-think bank robberies, who are you robbing - virtual banks with endless amounts of money, not affecting anyone, multiple times a day? It can't happen with the snap of your fingers obviously, resources are limited and we gotta make use of what we have available until that changes. Why don't you allow the government to print money by getting MOU from Federal Bank just like in real life? Gov need to make sure they don't print more money as it will increase inflation and vice versa. We can also add Cuba officially as a country to develop trade and use foreign exchange for the economy

@Bone said in Increase money rolling or bring 2.0: Learn to read the actuall post And state where you heard the same before Another edit If we give a deadline date and we can't make it to the deadline disappointment happens hence we give no time or set no time to complete it, knowing you are not aware of the size of the task itself this is bs we know what happened with 2.0, years passed nothing got implemented in-game. We don't mind even if you state 1 year for the job to be done but we need something added to the server we are pissed doing sr daily and many players not playing the game because its got nothing new to offer as well as they have nothing to aspire for as many achieved the groups they wanted to get in, the properties they wanted and the money they needed. And if the money is needed to get the job done by an expert scripter, we old players are doing full-time job and we are ready to donate money to reach the goal for anything including 2.0, reset or for a major update.

@Bone said in Increase money rolling or bring 2.0: Behind the scene there are a few people including myself doing a rework on the economy, This is a challenging job and consumes a lot of free time, so no expectation of when it is "done" yet. So in short of what we are doing right now is, We wont trigger a full "wipe" but we keep this option open as final resort, instead we'll be doing a full adjustment on the current outcome and build a fair income system during the progress we'll be keeping you lads updated trough a nice forum topic / discord. As @Billionaire proposed to increase the economy is just shoving the problem ahead which we will be facing at later stage meaning it will be to late to sort it out cause right now there is more money being generated each month among players than players spend around ( we are aware that there is less option to spend money around this is also a thing we take along the progress ) As for housing, it has crashed due the amount of money being generated by players meaning they got more to spend around making houses have unrealistic values and values made up by players them self Back to some actual facts, Players together have generated a increase total of 9.3 BILLION over the past 8 months with a increase of 1.1 BILLION each month While organizations have been decreasing 793.1m over the past 8 months currently most money around is being generated by the following, Store-Robberies,Trucking,Arresting,Bank-Robbery Yet i want to point out, We are working on the matter we are not in a rush and take time to work this out to limit mistakes made Our aim goal is to realize a stable and moderated economy which can be altered once things are turning messy We are hearing this story for a long time, nothing will be accomplished if a time duration is not set for this project else years will pass on and a guy like me will again publish a topic on the economy for nothing

@ILLUSION said in Increase money rolling or bring 2.0: @Ghost722nd said in Increase money rolling or bring 2.0: Like @Bone already said pumping more money into an already damaged system would just increase the problem! Take properties as an example; normal houses which costs ~250k get sold for millions. The real problem is that players don't have enough ways to spend their money for. We need more "money drains" which make sense. For instance furniture/stuff for owned interiors just to throw an idea into. Ghost722nd has a nice point here. People continually earn money therefore amount of the money owned by players grows in parallel. This is not the problem. Problem is, when you fail to spend the money. Not being able to spend money much as you earn causes inflation, makes the in-game money worthless as long as you don't have hundred millions. Solution is hidden in the words he used; "money drains" . Problem is easy to identify, so we must focus on the solution. And I think we should produce some extra ways to spend money. And about the suggestion of resetting the money, it will not work in long term. Plus it is just an easy way to delay the problem. Also it can withdraw harsh reaction from players. Personally, I'd not like my money to be resetted and I think most would agree with me. "Money Drains" is the keyword folks! @Ghost722nd said in Increase money rolling or bring 2.0: Currently I'm working on a possible layout for the economy on SAES. Please be patient until it has been discussed and elaborated! Adding things which will make rich people spend their money on is a good idea but it has a drawback too as people know that money draining items will be added in server some will not use their money on these items and stash their money in their bank for future use. When people won't have money left in their bank after money drain then some of these rich people will be able to use their stashed money when things are cheaper. Reset option: Reset is the only option so that people can work their ass off to earn money and rush to buy props. The whole server will be a lot active and people will have fun buying and selling properties like old times. Non-Reset option: If people don't want to lose money then one suggestion would be to subtract everyone's money by a fixed percentage, probably easy to implement as well. Non-Reset Example: If everyone's money is decreased by 90% Before Reset, Person A has 100 million Person B has 10 million After Reset, Person A has 10 million Person B has 1million @Ronseal @Brophy @Ghost722nd @Bone @Joe

We need to do something regarding the economy. Either Reset all the money and personal properties or suggest something which will make us work for money - do the job & use bank money to buy or sell things as a businessman. @Brophy @Joe @Bone @Ghost722nd

Don't make this suggestion go for waste like all the other suggestions on the economy. I am an old player since 2010 and i hardly login now except for elections or for my gang. Right now there's nothing to do except sr. Previously there was no money and we used to work for it or make money work for us by reselling properties. Right now most of the people have money but they hardly make money reselling properties or spawn something to work for money. Nothing is exciting anymore. We need to do something regarding the economy. Either Reset all the money and personal properties or suggest something which will make us work for money - do the job & use bank money to buy or sell things as a businessman. @Brophy @Bone @Ghost722nd

@Bone said in Increase money rolling or bring 2.0: Increasing money on a already ruined/damaged economy has no effect You proposed a idea with no actuall feedback on effect nor think trough it or what it causes. To lighten up your feed, -> https://archive.saesrpg.uk/community/topic/101518-would-you-still-play-after-an-economy-reset-with-job-payouts-and-prices-lowered/ Still in the works but delayed hard time cause it need to work out perfectly and relays on new future functions that voting was for 2.0, most people said yes including me for reset money.

hi, I am not happy with the current money supply in SAES. Many years back people used to have money and they used to roll its trading properties which were a very great part of the fun in the server. Now buying and selling properties have gone down and people are stuck with their assets. This stopped due to changes in the money supply and when it was decided to stop inflation. But this control of inflation has made the property market come to a stall and the volume of trading properties has gone down drastically. It was also said that 2.0 will come and everyone's money will be zero. But its not coming and we have no news of it. I say we either bring 2.0 or increase the supply of money in the server so that we can have fun trade properties and make our money work for us. This will increase the money supply in the market, increase the volume of trade and businesses as well as an increase in sponsored events.

@Tut-Greco we can't ignore new generation of players, a good step at giving him a chance

good idea, should be implemented

FBI leader should have been asked about his stance on this matter before accusing the whole squad. ps: no one knows the new president, people just voted because of his name Tayyib Erdogan

@Terry the name itself "AK" party denotes AK 47 lol Criminal party with links to a terrorist organization and it was still allowed to run for gov, funny shit. You talking just like previous parties who won and said that they will do quality rps then gave up and went inactive

If CLP tries to overthrow the gov its a coup, when DE tries the same its a forced rp

Congratz all who won, we as YP fight well but lost with few margins on all seats. We will learn from our mistakes this elections and fight better next one. Gz all

no one cares about this poll

@Brophy How about 30,000 GBP?

@Brophy I know its April fools day today, I would like to buy SAES for real - give me the price

Youth Party will be fighting this elections, we will go around san andreas and ask people their problems and raise their voices in the senate. All current and old YP members are informed to hold public meetings and recruit new faces in party for election campaigning. We will win this elections with majority. Start a chat with me on forums to join with me this elections, LETS WIN TOGETHER

temporary gov is having fun with their powers right now, they forget SAES HQ gave them this power for a temp time

hands down to the development team, reason for me to login after a long time

Congratz all :)