Changing the BR holding system!

[PaiN500]

Hello Ladies and Gentlemans,
You seriously believe that if BRs with less than 10 cops are no longer allowed, everything is solved? Then please clarify, at what point is it possible to AJ a policeman? There are 10 cops online, a gang is holding the marker and after a few minutes a cop knows about it because he can easily locate the criminal holding the marker with the K-panel. He just turns off his router and everyone thinks he got a time out, but he just uses that minimum number of 10 policemen to prevent the gang from having a BR. How can that be controlled? And what if a cop has to go offline because he has an important appointment? The BR has already been leaked, the policemen know about it, there are only 10 cops online and one has to leave urgently because he has an appointment. He leaves the game because there is nothing else he can do. Is that able to AJ then? Please clarify things so that a misunderstanding like last time does not happen again. There have been just 3 BRs since the system was introduced. You might want to reconsider the system and find a better solution. I would suggest that marker holding is possible, but you need at least one star. So if you start holding the marker, you get 5 stars. After a few minutes, you lose one star each time and as soon as you lose the last star, the marker disappears. This means that the cops always have the possibility to arrest the person holding the marker. So it also depends on the cops to be active and smart enough to notice that someone is holding the marker. So you create a maximum of time until you can hold the marker and also the cop can arrest the person holding the marker at any time. So it also depends on some skill or cleverness of the cops how quickly they realise that a BR is about to take place.
^[I hope there will be changes and that they will take this suggestion seriously.]

[alius]

Many times have gangs been holding the marker ready to BR when cops find out about it so they respawn as a different class just so the gang now cant start the BR. Why is that allowed? They will purposely spawn as prison warden or SAM to prevent a BR from starting, or just simply log off

[JukyPlatinium]

Make script to count any official squad member spawns as crim to avoid starting BR etc...

[PaiN500]

For those who voted no, can you explain why? @PticoF @Razak @Latinoo

[Durby]

@pain500 Cuz they're cops :KEKW:

[PaiN500]

@Durby

But that's exactly the point. With this rule, the gangs don't even start regrouping with 10 cops, because it's possible that one of them will log out at any time and you'll just be wasting time. This in turn means that there are fewer BRs and therefore less fun for both criminals and cops. It takes the fun away from both sides unfortunately. So again the request to the people who voted no, explain why.

[Rose]

We might get some suggestions solved against cops if daryl joins crim side

[Lorch]

you go on a BR with 10 cops, then suddenly a cop logs off and cops count becomes 9 which ends up in a nutshell, cops can easily abuse that, either one of them tries to bait the concerned gang for the bankrob in an accidental abuse of the marker and fake reporting them for that unvoluntary rulebreak, or to stop their BR on purpose and preventing it from starting up by telling one of the squad members to log off or pretend that you got timed out by pulling out the router cable, i see that Copside can abuse that with these reasons i just mentioned, you gotta make alot of changes or its gonna make more bad consequences for other gangs in their BRs since we were the victim of this BR holding system disaster, rebuild it completely because its really very messed up.

[Petrow]

The cops who log out or respawn during the regroup wont get punished ofc

[Petrow]

Not to mention the cops who spawn as trainees and attend the brs as such so that the doors open slower cause of the low cop count, absolute mess

[zKill98]

The current system is broken, let s suppose there s 12 cops online, 9 of them want to have fun and arrest crims in br and there s the other 3 which know the vulnerability in the system so they just spawn mechanic, ,medic or something else. The other 9 get automatically stucked because the ones which left are stupids, so the system hits both parts, crims and cops. where is the problem if a br start with people holding marker or not sorry? More BR starts more is the chance of arresting people and enjoy the gameplay. Its a crim vs cop server so why you want to prevent a br to happen ? That s my opinion

[sherap2.0]

Sad moment to saes community.
We're fighting to have 10 cops online on the server ( wtf is happening .... ?? ). SAES hq could pay more attention to the cop side to encourage new players to play as cop.
If we had a fair amount of cops, we wouldn't need to be here talking about punishing cops that leave the server when you have exactly 10 cops online during a on going br.

[MrSolrac]

@sherap2-0 You dont have idea how many suggestion "we criminals"'ve made to revive cop side, They added spawn to level 1 squads and it worked pretty well the first two months, now we are back where we started sadly

[PaiN500]

@sherap2-0 You as a cop should know better than us. There may just a lack of activity as a cop if there are no BRs/SRs. Maybe a new activity as a cop would boost the activity of the cops. We should ask you why cops are inactive since you are active as a cop. Maybe you can think of something and share it with us instead of reporting people who actually just want to have fun.

[sherap2.0]

@pain500 said in Changing the BR holding system!:

@sherap2-0 You as a cop should know better than us. There may just a lack of activity as a cop if there are no BRs/SRs. Maybe a new activity as a cop would boost the activity of the cops. We should ask you why cops are inactive since you are active as a cop. Maybe you can think of something and share it with us instead of reporting people who actually just want to have fun.

WTF? Why are you talking about report ? Be aware. I only reported burako when he was spawning as trainee to bribe.. only this report since i came back...

about the activity of the cops.. i think saes should make our work more easy like adding 25% or 50% shield for all official squads members ( also hospital and house spawn ), difficult a bit more br and sr system, etc.. saes needs make crims life more hard or cop side more easy to encourage new players to play as cop. Currently , playing as crimminal is more fun and easier than playing as cop.

You can say : " but cops have slow shotgun , taser , blablabla ..." it is not enough to supplement our lack of players

Join in the server and you will see the ratio between cops/crimminals in most of the time like that 53v7 / 74v15 / 62v7

[GamerZ]

@zkill98 said in Changing the BR holding system!:

The current system is broken, let s suppose there s 12 cops online, 9 of them want to have fun and arrest crims in br and there s the other 3 which know the vulnerability in the system so they just spawn mechanic, ,medic or something else. The other 9 get automatically stucked because the ones which left are stupids, so the system hits both parts, crims and cops. where is the problem if a br start with people holding marker or not sorry? More BR starts more is the chance of arresting people and enjoy the gameplay. Its a crim vs cop server so why you want to prevent a br to happen ? That s my opinion

Completely agree

[PaiN500]

@sherap2-0 What kind of wishes do you have? Should we give the cops an admin panel directly? Currently, the admins are already trying to make life as good as possible for the cops. Giving cops armour permanently, even at the hospital, is ridiculous and would break the server. The goal is to make something balanced and not to give the cops everything up their ass. As you can see, 10 active cops are enough to stop the SR or 15-20 to stop a BR. It's not all in the system but also in the motivation of the cops.
^[But guys, that's not the issue here. Let's stick to the topic and hope that the holding system will be changed and we will be able to BR again soon.]

[DROT]

"BR holding" is not an intended concept, it was made possible because of a flaw in the script and is considered abuse of the BR system.

BR becomes a BR once there is a sufficient number of gang members in the bank, who are in the process of cracking. Up until that moment the BR is nonexistent and can be overtaken by any other gang who shows up with the number of members required to initiate a BR. One player standing in a marker has no purpose.

Reserving a bank for your gang in advance by sending one player over there or calling it in team chat is player made construct and not in any way encouraged or sanctioned by the rules. There is no reason for you to send one person over and risk alerting the police, you can simply not do that.

Finally, we're currently working on means through which the event of cops switching spawns to prevent a BR should be made impossible or far more difficult.