[FEATURE] SR or HR?

[Daryl]

Hi.

Quick poll to see how the community feels about this, I am of the opinion changing back to a HR system would make the activity a bit more unique and not the same store copy pasted 20 times.

For those of you who do not know, changing to the HR system would mean all SR structures (the shops) would be removed, and instead the HR circle would be placed on already existing areas of the map, such as streets, buildings, etc.

Please voice your opinion and if enough people want to change back to HR I can look into scoping what's needed to make the change happen.

Thanks

Edit; Just to clarify - this would be a purely cosmetic change as to where the markers would be. None of the current functionality of the SR would change.

[Malapumba]

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[Bartman]

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

sr = dumb afking on a tinny 4x4m roof
hr = action

you can aswell go do some afk-turf if u want ez money for doing nothing, but the fun is not the money itself, the fun beginns at the DM

[Hatchet]

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

[Hatchet]

@Bartman said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

sr = dumb afking on a tinny 4x4m roof
hr = action

you can aswell go do some afk-turf if u want ez money for doing nothing, but the fun is not the money itself, the fun beginns at the DM

First of all afking in turfs don't give us that much of money. Also you are talking about action and DM; dude, you just wont get a chance. Cops will come and arrest all the crims before they even get a chance of killing them cops; and that aint fun for crims.

[Bangas]

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.
Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

[Hatchet]

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.

vice versa? maybe...

Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

Also I want to clarify what you have understood. It's not about only me, it's about the whole crim side. As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side. I see no selfishness in it and want to keep this convo friendly. Don't try to call me selfish as you have no right to do so, don't make it personal.

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

Exactly....100 percent. That's what I am saying that everyone have their right to have a different opinion and express it.

[Bangas]

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.

vice versa? maybe...

Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

Also I want to clarify what you have understood. It's not about only me, it's about the whole crim side. As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side. I see no selfishness in it and want to keep this convo friendly. Don't try to call me selfish as you have no right to do so, don't make it personal.

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

Exactly....100 percent. That's what I am saying that everyone have their right to have a different opinion and express it.

"As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side"

Maybe you should defend what you think it's more correct and not the criminal side.
but that's the way i see it and it's pointless to keep arguing since we have defined opinions and we are not willing to change... anyways thanks for showing me your point of view.

[Bartman]

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.

vice versa? maybe...

Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

Also I want to clarify what you have understood. It's not about only me, it's about the whole crim side. As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side. I see no selfishness in it and want to keep this convo friendly. Don't try to call me selfish as you have no right to do so, don't make it personal.

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

Exactly....100 percent. That's what I am saying that everyone have their right to have a different opinion and express it.

"As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side"

Maybe you should defend what you think it's more correct and not the criminal side.
but that's the way i see it and it's pointless to keep arguing since we have defined opinions and we are not willing to change... anyways thanks for showing me your point of view.

mens chill abit..
as all knows iam crime since ever in saes, and even some may say oppesite, i was always neutral at cops vs crimes shit, tryed always bring logical points why this or this is wrong or right.
but here i need to say as gangmember/crime wich knows how hr works & sr, hr can be win with teamwork of crimes & it have actual real DM, it will be abit harder, but men what do crimes preffer?
staying afk at roof & some cop do parashute to arrest alone ~15+ crimes for example? there is no real fight, just an little reacting time, abit luck & afk.
hr gives chance for both sides to win hr because teamwork & skills + alot DM
look at bones video, tell me that booring afk sr can be better than real DM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO24-6WZ5g
from my eyes, if want farming money without beeing arrested, just go trucking/farming or afk turf (wich brings more money than sr if enough members)
we have all oponions/some have experience, some dont even know what hr is, but we have a vote & lets atleast try mens, if we would stay safe & wouldnt try change anything in the world, we would still hunt animals in the wood & making fire like in stone age.

[Hatchet]

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.

vice versa? maybe...

Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

Also I want to clarify what you have understood. It's not about only me, it's about the whole crim side. As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side. I see no selfishness in it and want to keep this convo friendly. Don't try to call me selfish as you have no right to do so, don't make it personal.

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

Exactly....100 percent. That's what I am saying that everyone have their right to have a different opinion and express it.

Maybe you should defend what you think it's more correct and not the criminal side.

I said that 'cause
"Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish..." this is what you said. I wanted to clarify that it's not that I do care about only my own good. It is not about if I fail more HRs or not at all. You literally meant that that's my opinion 'cause I think I will fail more HRs while it's 'cause I think it will be disadvantageous for all the crims. (that is "what I think is more correct").

but that's the way i see it and it's pointless to keep arguing since we have defined opinions and we are not willing to change

true

anyways thanks for showing me your point of view.

No problems :blush:

[Ikzelf]

@Kain said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

people spawning at housing icons physically inside the HR marker.

People already spawn 2 feet next to SR's anyways.

+1 for a mixture of sorts.

[Bartman]

@Ikzelf said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Kain said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

people spawning at housing icons physically inside the HR marker.

People already spawn 2 feet next to SR's anyways.

+1 for a mixture of sorts.

^^this
y both mixxed would be perfect

[IceCold]

Imagine 6 cops just sniping crims like at srs, and thats fun huh? Kek
Think again

[Bartman]

@IceCold said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

Imagine 6 cops just sniping crims like at srs, and thats fun huh? Kek
Think again

imagine cops sniping crimes at sr, ohwait : D
at hr u have atleast more protection against snipers
i swear i will do some events just to simulate hr & show all this pussy crimes that u dont need to be scared : D

[reket]

if this gets added back, then how about making a new system for HRs so criminals would actually be in a house (with open interior like in SR or a normal interior marker) and they would have to set up defensive positions to kill cops inside the house until the HR ends instead of sitting in a circle

[Sicario]

when is back!??????

[Hatchet]

@Bartman said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.

vice versa? maybe...

Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

Also I want to clarify what you have understood. It's not about only me, it's about the whole crim side. As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side. I see no selfishness in it and want to keep this convo friendly. Don't try to call me selfish as you have no right to do so, don't make it personal.

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

Exactly....100 percent. That's what I am saying that everyone have their right to have a different opinion and express it.

"As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side"

Maybe you should defend what you think it's more correct and not the criminal side.
but that's the way i see it and it's pointless to keep arguing since we have defined opinions and we are not willing to change... anyways thanks for showing me your point of view.

mens chill abit..
as all knows iam crime since ever in saes, and even some may say oppesite, i was always neutral at cops vs crimes shit, tryed always bring logical points why this or this is wrong or right.
but here i need to say as gangmember/crime wich knows how hr works & sr, hr can be win with teamwork of crimes & it have actual real DM, it will be abit harder, but men what do crimes preffer?
staying afk at roof & some cop do parashute to arrest alone ~15+ crimes for example? there is no real fight, just an little reacting time, abit luck & afk.
hr gives chance for both sides to win hr because teamwork & skills + alot DM
look at bones video, tell me that booring afk sr can be better than real DM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO24-6WZ5g
from my eyes, if want farming money without beeing arrested, just go trucking/farming or afk turf (wich brings more money than sr if enough members)
we have all oponions/some have experience, some dont even know what hr is, but we have a vote & lets atleast try mens, if we would stay safe & wouldnt try change anything in the world, we would still hunt animals in the wood & making fire like in stone age.

Hmm It actually looks like a lot of fun in that video BUT I think cops will most likely use brute force (killing) instead of trying to arrest (unlike that video) and it won't be cool. Oh yea, now they even have server rules in their favor - an excuse to kill. Even if there is 6 crims and 4-5 cops I bet they will try to kill first as "they are taking fire". So what we supposed to do? Let them come peacefully and arrest us? They can always arrest us most if they are skilled enough and teamworks.

[Hatchet]

@IceCold said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

Imagine 6 cops just sniping crims like at srs, and thats fun huh? Kek
Think again

I agree with you

[Bartman]

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bartman said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.

vice versa? maybe...

Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

Also I want to clarify what you have understood. It's not about only me, it's about the whole crim side. As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side. I see no selfishness in it and want to keep this convo friendly. Don't try to call me selfish as you have no right to do so, don't make it personal.

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

Exactly....100 percent. That's what I am saying that everyone have their right to have a different opinion and express it.

"As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side"

Maybe you should defend what you think it's more correct and not the criminal side.
but that's the way i see it and it's pointless to keep arguing since we have defined opinions and we are not willing to change... anyways thanks for showing me your point of view.

mens chill abit..
as all knows iam crime since ever in saes, and even some may say oppesite, i was always neutral at cops vs crimes shit, tryed always bring logical points why this or this is wrong or right.
but here i need to say as gangmember/crime wich knows how hr works & sr, hr can be win with teamwork of crimes & it have actual real DM, it will be abit harder, but men what do crimes preffer?
staying afk at roof & some cop do parashute to arrest alone ~15+ crimes for example? there is no real fight, just an little reacting time, abit luck & afk.
hr gives chance for both sides to win hr because teamwork & skills + alot DM
look at bones video, tell me that booring afk sr can be better than real DM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO24-6WZ5g
from my eyes, if want farming money without beeing arrested, just go trucking/farming or afk turf (wich brings more money than sr if enough members)
we have all oponions/some have experience, some dont even know what hr is, but we have a vote & lets atleast try mens, if we would stay safe & wouldnt try change anything in the world, we would still hunt animals in the wood & making fire like in stone age.

Hmm It actually looks like a lot of fun in that video BUT I think cops will most likely use brute force (killing) instead of trying to arrest (unlike that video) and it won't be cool. Oh yea, now they even have server rules in their favor - an excuse to kill. Even if there is 6 crims and 4-5 cops I bet they will try to kill first as "they are taking fire". So what we supposed to do? Let them come peacefully and arrest us? They can always arrest us most if they are skilled enough and teamworks.

aye lets hope cops dont kill us, honestly latly i havent noticed cops sniping for fun at sr, but earlyer i had alot times when i was alone at sr & cops still sniped me, like wtf.

but in my eyes only the watertank could be op at hr

[Hatchet]

@Bartman said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bartman said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Bangas said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

@Hatchet said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

No from me....SRs are way more better than those old HRs. Cops are already a bit OP these days; replacing SRs with HRs will mean a disaster for crim side. I love the system as it is right now. Maybe it a bit repetitive, easier etc but I don't need extra pain in ass as long I'm getting the fast decent money.

dude sometimes people stay for long time in the Sr roof afk because they went afk during an SR ive done it already, because it's boring.
when you got a lot of crims protecting it you don't even need to bother protecting it, would be cool for both sides, easier for cops to retake it and funnier for crims cus they will be doing it activly and not just standing in the roof scratching the balls.

that's my opinion and ofc that everyone has the right to have his own _()_/

Easier for the cops - yes, funnier for the crims - nope. If you think that SR is too ez for crim side as they have a lot of crims protecting, tell me why I can see "store robbery stopped by police" every now and then? It's balanced for both cops and crims as it is, the SR. HR will make things worse for crim side and that is not cool.

There is time where cops have more strength then criminals and vice versa, same would happen in the HR.

vice versa? maybe...

Also because you think that you will fail more HRs that's already a reason to say no?
Try to be less selfish...

Also I want to clarify what you have understood. It's not about only me, it's about the whole crim side. As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side. I see no selfishness in it and want to keep this convo friendly. Don't try to call me selfish as you have no right to do so, don't make it personal.

But just like i said above opinions are opinions.

Exactly....100 percent. That's what I am saying that everyone have their right to have a different opinion and express it.

"As a part of an official gang, it's obvious and natural that I will talk in favor of the crim side. Nothing wrong I can see in it. Eventually the members of official squads will in favor of the cop side"

Maybe you should defend what you think it's more correct and not the criminal side.
but that's the way i see it and it's pointless to keep arguing since we have defined opinions and we are not willing to change... anyways thanks for showing me your point of view.

mens chill abit..
as all knows iam crime since ever in saes, and even some may say oppesite, i was always neutral at cops vs crimes shit, tryed always bring logical points why this or this is wrong or right.
but here i need to say as gangmember/crime wich knows how hr works & sr, hr can be win with teamwork of crimes & it have actual real DM, it will be abit harder, but men what do crimes preffer?
staying afk at roof & some cop do parashute to arrest alone ~15+ crimes for example? there is no real fight, just an little reacting time, abit luck & afk.
hr gives chance for both sides to win hr because teamwork & skills + alot DM
look at bones video, tell me that booring afk sr can be better than real DM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qDO24-6WZ5g
from my eyes, if want farming money without beeing arrested, just go trucking/farming or afk turf (wich brings more money than sr if enough members)
we have all oponions/some have experience, some dont even know what hr is, but we have a vote & lets atleast try mens, if we would stay safe & wouldnt try change anything in the world, we would still hunt animals in the wood & making fire like in stone age.

Hmm It actually looks like a lot of fun in that video BUT I think cops will most likely use brute force (killing) instead of trying to arrest (unlike that video) and it won't be cool. Oh yea, now they even have server rules in their favor - an excuse to kill. Even if there is 6 crims and 4-5 cops I bet they will try to kill first as "they are taking fire". So what we supposed to do? Let them come peacefully and arrest us? They can always arrest us most if they are skilled enough and teamworks.

aye lets hope cops dont kill us, honestly latly i havent noticed cops sniping for fun at sr, but earlyer i had alot times when i was alone at sr & cops still sniped me, like wtf.

but in my eyes only the watertank could be op at hr

Yea 1312 - All Cops Are Bastards

[BurakO]

The HR systems looks good and fun, a lot of DM its better than stay afk like a dickhead on roof. SR is bored when there are +12 crims. HR will be fun anyway, 1 good cop can arrest people easy, but when criminals camping on roof using Combat shotgun its no easy for 1 cop, even if he is pro. But on the land combat 1 cop can arrest a lot of crims, that is more fun.

[Bartman]

@buraco said in [Vote] SR vs HR?:

The HR systems looks good and fun, a lot of DM its better than stay afk like a dickhead on roof. SR is bored when there are +12 crims. HR will be fun anyway, 1 good cop can arrest people easy, but when criminals camping on roof using Combat shotgun its no easy for 1 cop, even if he is pro. But on the land combat 1 cop can arrest a lot of crims, that is more fun.

well, actually in my eyes i think its the other way arround if we talk only about one cop, on tinny 4x4 meters roof can one cop para down there & ramboarrest all without problems because crimes have no space to run. on ground crimes have alot space to run & avoid rambo + easyer shoot + atleast ~70% of hr had roofs aswell earlyer, but bigger roofs

[Ram]

Bump

[Franklin]

As a Vice President of Hell Raisers MC, I would like to add something here, as someone before on this topic said that this SR structure gives criminals a decent fighting chance against cops, I think it gives them too much of advantage, as a leader of a level 1 gang we have to take screenshots of activities on store robberies, VIPs and things like such and we find it very difficult to come to a store robbery with our bikes together and take a screenshot, the store robbery just ends way to fast for us to manage that, I think by adding House Robbery it would actually slow down the robberies giving lower gangs a chance to actually get an activity out of it, nonetheless it would be way more fun because you have to use different vehicles to get to robberies, such as boats. +1 from me, I really hope this gets added, but I think every store robbery should be next to a house or water or anything criminals can jump on and stay there so they have just a little bit more of advantage from police if criminals were just standing on the floor without anything they can escape from it would then make it too easy for cops to arrest them. I think House Robberies deserve a shot since the majority voted yes.

[Durby]

No. The old system is utterly retarded with the new developments (shamal kamikaze, dropping with parachute's etc...) The new sr structure (liquor store) gives the necessary advantage to criminals although that is exploited to. I like the nostalgic vibes but no.

[NORI91]

Seems dead Suggestion