@wendo, I might be completely wrong on it but did that group was created and kept doing activities for what purpose? A spawn or just because they enjoy it? Because I'm pretty sure if it was for the 2nd one, they would've kept going no matter what or how often they do such activities. Now, if you put an objective like "let's do stuff so we can get a personal spawn", at the end of a few activities, some are just doing it for the reward. People, in my view, need to have the choice of "ok, I'm up for it today" as "fuck it today". I firmly believe that a group founded with the whole purpose of gathering a few MC lovers just for the sake of it and do some activity, either by road trips, gathering at LVX afking altogether, roleplays, whatever, is a group that first, isn't going very far in terms of "group levels", second won't get attention level like CLO, DE, HLS, etc but third and most important, their members will enjoy their time on the server.