[FEATURE] Group/gang/squad vehicle in H disk

[General]

I came with this good idea after realizing that it's a pain in the ass to come back with group/gang/squad vehicles, literally its not fun going to a JB with a civilian vehicle, its no bueno, and it looks so fucking ugly. RP groups are always free to make their own convoys during events, but this is a good idea in my opinion and the way it should work is that the gang/group only appears as the one you're spawned so its not stacked up with shit, and there would be obviously prohibited vehicles

The way the vehicles should be spawned is that basically they're taken from the bases, they're TPed to you, and don't put patriot copies that stack up the shit, just put one name for each vehicle, and it will be toggled off once all are unavailable, occupied then ez.

Prohibited vehicles

Prohibited vehicles do not get impounded because you won't spawn them

• SWAT Tank
• Rhino
• common sense bro, and if there are any monkeys who don't know, well I'll tell them for ya Hydra, and Hunter, and all air vehicles, you can't even spawn them (Enforced should be allowed

Features

Squad/group/gang vehicles now get impounded

Squad/group/gang vehicles have to be repaired by 5k

squad impound 15k max

Gang impound 30k

special groups like HLS DE CLO SS do not get impounded 

other non-special groups 15k

You can unimpound them with your money, etc. The reason why I think squads and special groups have the lowest is because they're government agencies, and CLO has controls CC so, corruption.

Edited July 16, 2023 by General
Appealing to critical thinking

[BurakO]

You have cars on disket for it, -1

[General]

@BurakO booring boooooo disliking comment, that's why I made this idea.

don't vote on suggestions if you're retarded pls..

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

@BurakO "literally its not fun going to a JB with a civilian vehicle, its no bueno, and it looks so fucking ugly."

[Linkan]

44 minutes ago, General said:

@BurakO "literally its not fun going to a JB with a civilian vehicle, its no bueno, and it looks so fucking ugly."

Tryin to find otherways to not get ur car impounded hm?! And to not throw money on repairing your car heh!!!

[corpse]

That’s the whole point of bases, that’s one of the reasons people climbs official levels. You can get a house and a donation also you have 2 spawns inside the jail, if you don’t like to use it then that’s is a YOU problem.

[General]

@Linkan lmfao u wanna get money, but that's the point during on duty (patrol) we're not supposed to use civilian vehicles, squads are not allowed to patrol in civilian vehicles due to GM rules but we do anyways because it's a pain in the ass to go to base over and over again.

But I agree with you that's a good point if this was a feature then group/gang/squad that are in the not prohibited list should be impounded too, I'll fix that.

 

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

@corpse I don't know what you're trying to say it doesn't make sense, not a lot of people use squad's service vehicles nowadays, In SWAT we do during patrol with huge numbers, but in the end we don't really use our service vehicles when we're supposed to, when we are responding to JBs will you see a SWAT with a service vehicle? No because the base is too fucking far away same with SRs if our vehicles explode or respawn you won't see us using them we'll use our civilian ones and I don't have donations with squad vehicles so how does that apply to everyone?

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[Linkan]

@Generalim pretty sure from a gm point of view. Ur not fotced to use squad vehicles lmao

[General]

@Linkannah it's in the rules for patrol, its broken several times, but we do respect it as SWAT if we're a lot of people who need Patriots or FBI Ranchers (if the patriots have police lights) but we don't respect it sometimes because we'll use dual-seat vehicles or four-seat vehicles like sultans who are not police.. 

It doesn't apply to JBs, SRs or BRs I think since it says patrol, but maybe it does too at that point, so really there's no point of having squad service vehicles if many if not most of the times they're not used, HLS people have to come back to base everytime their vehicles are destroyed, don't they?

I put the fix by the way.

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

@Linkanlike for example we start with FBI Rancher, it gets destroyed we respawn in hosp we use civilian vehicles, this is a GM rule break for patrolling, and breaks the point of being a cop, I bet y'all would love spawning with your service vehicles everytime, doesn't mean you can't use your civilian vehicles, but there's no reason to and you shouldn't.

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

@Linkanbut you're right they should be impounded, since both sides are now currently benefited thanks to your critical thinking, may you change your votes please?

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

I ask you because people don't really make arguments during suggestions, it should be a rule for every feature that is not supported to make a argument, if the holes are fixed and both sides or multiple sides are benefited/appealed then they can proceed to change their votes

A good example of a invalid argument, fallacy is Burako saying that we have disks but this is monkey/autism behavior I have explained several valid points why it's useful and needed, at that point why not have it? If you say we have disks you can also easily say then why not if nobody uses service vehicles?

 

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[corpse]

1 hour ago, General said:

@corpse I don't know what you're trying to say it doesn't make sense, not a lot of people use squad's service vehicles nowadays, In SWAT we do during patrol with huge numbers, but in the end we don't really use our service vehicles when we're supposed to, when we are responding to JBs will you see a SWAT with a service vehicle? No because the base is too fucking far away same with SRs if our vehicles explode or respawn you won't see us using them we'll use our civilian ones and I don't have donations with squad vehicles so how does that apply to everyone?

What you mentioned isn’t really an example of “patrolling” (might aswell check the real definition of it)

When you go to a jb it’s raiding and when you are locating a player through your K panel is actually a chase (since you’re trying to be technical in a 2004 game) You are making the fix of a problem that doesn’t exist in the first place. You are just trying to save yourself 5k fixing your car each time you die.

[General]

@corpse Responding to emergencies is part of every officer's patrol, you patrol go chase some criminals arrest them, but then you get a bank robbery call it's your duty to respond, if u just go directly looking for crims, that still would be considered patrolling but like in a targetting manner since you were driving to a specific location trying to find a wanted man, in real life this happens but difference is them patrolling around to find wanted targets once they're fugitives/escaped so you're wrong, as I said before it doesn't make any sense to use civilian vehicles, the major reason why this happens is because our service vehicles are destroyed, and I will repeat it again squads are not supposed to patrol with civ cars this is even pointed out in GM activity media archive rules for squads, but we'll always break this rule because there's no feature like this. And I don't really care if my personal vehicles are damaged I have 137m in bank I take out 40k everyday to repair my vehicles and use snack vendors, as I told you before the "this is the whole point of bases" this is a flawed argument and is actually a fallacy because bases are spawn points, essentially RP too, they have nothing to do with vehicles, it's flawed because when you respond to a BR in SF while SWAT is in LV you can just decide to use a prop to spawn in SF instead of using a Shamal or a dodge charger which will take like 3 mins to go there, with shamal only being a slightly minimal change because it goes in straight line and it's speed is worse, so there is already a good reason to have a feature like this, it'll fix the service vehicles being destroyed every patrol and having to spawn with civilian vehicles which is pretty much ugly for a RPG server, this doesn't happen in some other RPG servers such as CIT so no, I'm not being necessarily technical, I'm being logical.

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

@corpseyou criminals have nothing to complain about, you do the same thing we cops do, your gang vehicles get destroyed you can choose to go hosp and use your own ones

And when you go to BRs you also spawn in base to use Shamal or get the Shamal from airports when it's a public BR, so why are you even mentioning bases?

This is a suggestion with good reasons, if you don't like it that's not my problem because the fact you think for yourself and not for all the sides is selfish, I have told Linkan he should be able to impound squad and group vehicles considering if the feature gets added, hell even the price of unimpounding special group vehicles like DE/HLS should be higher than squad's and gangs, with squad and gangs just being a slightly higher than a personal vehicle, so how am I fully thinking for myself as you have implied? Because I can't deny, I do want this suggestion to be done for myself, in the end I only do them out of hobby.

 

 

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

@SlapBobs@Linkan @Zodiac@corpse@Freezy@KinGSmoke@Sira@Rezy I'm waiting for every one of y'all to provide a valid argument which explains why you're disliking a suggestion that would benefit all copside and criminal side, I have found no point in Corpse's iqless critical thinking and only Linkan's, and fixed it. Linkan you should in fact change the vote since you should be able to impound, repairing should be fixed too.

I'm Chilean I can handle all of y'all.

Edited July 16, 2023 by General

[General]

You all look like you were told by Burako to come to dislike as if you were Roblox bots disliking games, I'm waiting for your arguments

[General]

@Groovecare to explain?

[General]

Care to explain @Bisollini

[brotherhoodman]

-1 stupid idea bro

[General]

Care to explain @brotherhoodman

[BurakO]

3 hours ago, General said:

@corpse Responding to emergencies is part of every officer's patrol, you patrol go chase some criminals arrest them, but then you get a bank robbery call it's your duty to respond, if u just go directly looking for crims, that still would be considered patrolling but like in a targetting manner since you were driving to a specific location trying to find a wanted man, in real life this happens but difference is them patrolling around to find wanted targets once they're fugitives/escaped so you're wrong, as I said before it doesn't make any sense to use civilian vehicles, the major reason why this happens is because our service vehicles are destroyed, and I will repeat it again squads are not supposed to patrol with civ cars this is even pointed out in GM activity media archive rules for squads, but we'll always break this rule because there's no feature like this. And I don't really care if my personal vehicles are damaged I have 137m in bank I take out 40k everyday to repair my vehicles and use snack vendors, as I told you before the "this is the whole point of bases" this is a flawed argument and is actually a fallacy because bases are spawn points, essentially RP too, they have nothing to do with vehicles, it's flawed because when you respond to a BR in SF while SWAT is in LV you can just decide to use a prop to spawn in SF instead of using a Shamal or a dodge charger which will take like 3 mins to go there, with shamal only being a slightly minimal change because it goes in straight line and it's speed is worse, so there is already a good reason to have a feature like this, it'll fix the service vehicles being destroyed every patrol and having to spawn with civilian vehicles which is pretty much ugly for a RPG server, this doesn't happen in some other RPG servers such as CIT so no, I'm not being necessarily technical, I'm being logical.

Please do not do server advertisment

[Lincoln]

[corpse]

5 hours ago, General said:

@SlapBobs@Linkan @Zodiac@corpse@Freezy@KinGSmoke@Sira@Rezy I'm waiting for every one of y'all to provide a valid argument which explains why you're disliking a suggestion that would benefit all copside and criminal side, I have found no point in Corpse's iqless critical thinking and only Linkan's, and fixed it. Linkan you should in fact change the vote since you should be able to impound, repairing should be fixed too.

I'm Chilean I can handle all of y'all.

So, you want us to agree with your idea? Even tho I was giving you my insight of the idea, is just stupid. If you don’t like people disagreeing with you then you shouldn’t make public polls and fuck off. Take your xanas and chill. 

[General]

@corpse You already gave your insight even though it was stupid, and didn't make any sense at all considering how the server is, you can dislike as much as you want but explaining why is another thing, and convincing you is even different because people here think about their own side, about how stuff looks even when it's pointless, you argue with "this is the point of bases" but you don't explain what do you mean so I think you meant if this is true then bases will never be used if you said that instead, it would've been a good point and maybe I would have agreed with you although still a slightly flawed, and I think improbable because people don't use service vehicles a lot of times so what's the point of putting vehicles in our bases if we don't use them? this is specifically talking about squads, what about gangs? I bet it happens too and I don't think people would stop spawning in squad bases since literally most are placed strategically near BRs and people would still spawn from there since for example in GR, you have to spawn in the SWAT base to get in the Shamal or go to airports in order to do GR operations, and still would spawn there to AFK or just literally start your gameplay from there, the presence of a base is also very important to keep the existence of a squad..

I'm not going to ping you again for you to make an argument you already made, I'm pinging the ones who haven't, this is just retaliation to the ones who don't make arguments in suggestions, if you're complaining you can suck it up. I want people to explain why, and I already agreed with one.

Edited July 17, 2023 by General