@bisollini said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

@weppo I think you should play as a criminal abit too or look at it from both points of view.

I have played crim for years back then, I'll stick with cops since I got my groups

@drot yes and that attitude is why the cop reqruirement came.

Because half the cop force is going to an empty SR or an abandoned VIP rather to the server activity were the player interaction happens. (Which this server is about since its SAESRPG not SAESRP)

Criminals here clearly state that they DO believe that BRs are more important and more interesting. And for them it's even a reqruirement. Even though you stated the opposite.

I will say it again, I do still believe PBRs should be more common. With a decrease in payment after the first participation. (Minimum amount 50k, bonus for the first pbr 500k; if done successfully)

@jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

@Weppo BRs are absolutely part of a requirement and I don't know why you would be told otherwise.

https://saesrpg.uk/topic/375/gang-level-requirements-rewards

I know this, yet I still got told that it's for the sake of adding something for the media archive like a vip or sr.

Anyhow, this suggestion has not been made with the reason of meeting reqruirements. It's made because crims want the br activity to return. Therefore a pbr is similar enough and hes more acticity to offer compared to a regular br. F

@bisollini said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

@weppo I doubt anyone cares about the BR money in 2021 kek

Same but you would still have to consider it when making these types of suggestions

@jay Last time I had an argument with DROT about the importance of BRs he told me and I quote: "BRs aren't a reqruirement" and I much rather use the words of a gang manager then a group manager.

We have 2 very capable scripters in SAES who can make it like, like I suggested before.

The first PBR you attend will give you 100% payment and every other PBR you attend will give you 5 or 10% payment. That way it is still a good incentive to go. Also a PBR is far more entertaining since you also have a dropoff.
Way more of activity time then the 2:10 BRs JK was doing IMO

Also bring back HLS DE or CLO back to BRs. We all know these groups also have a role within these activities which has been lacking lately.

Can we get back to topic;

Rather then change this, change the PBR system to happen more. It's the same event, it just doesn't count towards HLS results.

If it's about that then I stand by my point of this suggestion being focussed on wanting higher results rather then having the activity. Since we all know CLO is not allowed to come to ANY criminal org. So it's already about having the best score rather then having a server activity.

@jay I know that you are group manager, that's the reason I explicitly responded to you.

I will enjoy my time as president, but I also have other groups to attend and do activities for. Not only for myself but also for the benefit of not letting the groups die.

There is a report button ingame if you see someone intenionally blocking brs. But I have also seen the otherside, were I have been doing stuff for SS for more then an hour and getting reported for it. If I want to do something for my group I should be able to.

I also suggested pbrs to happen more often, they work almost the same way as a normal br. They just don't get noticed by HLS results.

@jay its concerning that you as group manager are for this suggestion. "Those who spawn as civilian or some other group on their own are trying to prevent BRs from happening."

The reason I and the people I play with spawn as a group is to have fun in THESE groups. This in an activity for us which isn't about arresting. Its about having a fight without getting reported. Or to do some other activity. (For me RP) this isn't my way of taking revenge against criminals. This is my own fun. Also; we have to meet reqruitments.

No to this from me as well, PBR isn't related to specific gangs or get included in HLS results. Therefore are just another server event like SR, I would rather have my suggestion which I put inside the other topic.

After a good night I've come up with a middle ground, let me know what you think;

Remove the limit of 1 PBR per day. Make it 1 per hour. But give players a reduced payout after doing 1. Then after 24 hours you get a 1 time full payout.

This gives all the players a chance to be at a PBR each day. And crims get to do more (p)brs.

This also provides for people to come more often since you can plan it and also help your new friends get some money.