A new job has been added to the server, being a money transporter.

• A money Transporter spawn has been added to the Police teams in LS, SF and LV.
• As money transporter, enter a securicar and you will be instructed to pick money up at one of the city banks, and bring it to the Federal Mint in SF.
• Police (Police, Squads and Secret Service) are able to escort the transport, and earn money for escorting it.
  • The longer you have been with the transport, the more money you gain
  • If you are escorting multiple money transports at once you will get paid for each transport.
• Criminals can steal the money transport, and deliver it to a safe-house to get the money that was being transported.

As per popular demand, a stat leaderboard is now available for any of the currently registered server stats. This leaderboard contains both the ability to check someone's personal stats (just like /stats), and view a leaderboard.

These stats can be accessed on https://web.saesrpg.uk.
You log in with your in-game username and password.

We will be looking into adding further stats and potentially other features to this page as well.

I haven't read this all but somewhere in your wall of words I saw you say something about Teddy not being nice. And I want to make sure you know this. Yes, Teddy is a fucking asshole.

Up until now I stayed away from replying to this topic since I would only be adding more fuel to the fire, but since @Deu asked for me to make a statement, I will.

So let's start with what kickstarted this topic, Silence's radio script.
Several days ago Silence came to me with his suggestion for a new radio script that would replace the current one. Which would allow for you to also listen to the regular GTA SA radio stations. So the procedure started as it normally would where I start reviewing code, and once that is done the rest of the HQ team would review the concept itself.
Over the course of a week I had given him feedback several times. Some points were relatively minor, some were more major 'issues' with the script. But these were all issues that needed to be resolved before the code would be accepted for the live server.

This happened several time, where I gave feedback, explained what some of that feedback meant, and then awaited a new reply. Now by the time I brought up the boolean inversion Silence speaks of during his first post, some of the original pieces of feedback still were not resolved. (this is several days after the first 'round' of feedback) So at that point to have Silence say "I just did x to piss you off", that did indeed piss me off. And meant I wasn't going to spend any time reviewing that same piece of code.
After that I told Silence if he did want to continue to come back later with a new script of higher quality.

To me, that wasn't anything special, the code for his current script wasn't sufficient to be allowed on the server so I informed he it would be better to spend his time on a different feature. Up until I saw this topic I had no idea on how much offense Silence had apparently taken.

Why did I share this here anyway? I don't know, guess to just tell my side of the story.

Some of you might wonder why? Why are there these code standards for SAES?
It's no secret that SAES' code base is flawed, parts of it even are utter shit. But that's to be expected when there's "legacy code" (Code that is really old, which is the case with SAES). So we've been trying to fix some of these issues, and make sure any new code that's pushed to the server is of more quality than some of the stuff that's already there.
The reason this is important is because when code is properly structured, it makes it significantly easier to work on it as another developer. Which we do have to do since SAES is not a one man project.

Now to touch on some other people's comments on this thread
Firstly, everyone is entitled to their opinion (Which is also why this topic is not locked) and I must respect that, even if I would disagree with your opinion.

@BlaZZey If the script's code quality is improved to the point where it is sufficient, then the chances are that it would be uploaded to the server, but that's up to all of HQ to decide, not me.

Now it's also no secret that TheKiller and I have run into some issues in a similar situation, where I denied some of the code he suggested because it did not meet the standards. However as you can probably see in this topic, TheKiller does take it very personal, attempting to offend me by calling me an autist (Just for everyone's information, I'm not. No idea why TheKiller does think so, but I can imagine it being offensive to people who actually do have autism)
And I don't think the disagreements TheKiller and I have are going to be solved, we simply don't get along together. And to TheKiller that means he can not work with me.

Now it's also brought up by other people that my main priorities are not SAES, but KATLA.
Simply put, this is true. At first the idea for KATLA was that it would be SAES' new version, and be released for the clan. However due to a disagreement between Desolator & myself, and the majority of the current SAES HQ team Desolator and I have decided to take KATLA our own way.
This does not mean however that I do not care about SAES anymore, I still care to review code, to make sure that the code base remains maintainable for future developers. And to every now and then help fix bugs, resolve issues or create new things.

Now to @Lamza, I do not recall the run in you had with me two years ago, but if it is as you describe it that is not how I should have acted, and I'd like to apologize.

And to @Deu , yes. Desolator and I have been working on KATLA for close to two years now, and it's still not done! It's almost as if we don't work on it full time.
Sarcasm aside, Both Desolator and I have other things going on in life (our studies, work, other projects, etc). So yes it's taken a long time, and it will probably take quite some more time.

And no, I'm not "restricting" people from working on 1.4 because I am too busy with something else. I'm simply reviewing their code to make SAES 1.4 easier to work on for our current (and potential) future developers.

And yes, there have been many great suggestions that haven't been implemented, if we (the dev team) had the time to implement every good suggestion that's made, live our life, and work on our own things. Then we would, but we can only spend our time once, so we all spend it on what we would like to do the most. To us scripting for SAES is a hobby, not a job. So you can't expect of us to work tirelessly on it.

So that's it for now, if I've missed your post, feel free to quote me here, or come talk to me on discord.

Crouching bug

@XpookS said in Do something with hitreg / fix bullet sync:

Let's talk about the crouching bug, its been like 6 months now? more? I don't know to be honest with you every time we start talking about the bug u get some bullshit response, Imagine people are getting punished just because ur lovely developers couldn't fix the bug. ( 6 months now they couldn't have a free time I guess to fix it yeah sure brother)

Okay, let's do that. Let's talk about the crouch bug.
For those unaware, what seems to be the case with the "crouch bug" is that a player is crouching, but on the screen of others appears to not be crouching. (or to be weirdly "jumping" back and forth between crouching and standing.)

Now this means somehow the players crouching state seems to be improperly synchronized between multiple players. However player synchronization is something that is done by MTA, not by SAES.
Luckily MTA is (partially) open source, so I have done much digging into how exactly MTA's synchronization works, what kind of network packets they send, when they send them, and how it should affect crouching. Turns out that every so called "pure sync" network packet sends a player's "ducked" state. Which is then to applied to the player in question.

To me, nothing seemed wrong in how this works, that could explain the behavior we're seeing in-game.

However, just because I don't know how to fix it doesn't mean it will not get fixed. Like I've said before, it's most likely an issue within MTA itself, not with SAES. And due to the fact that MTA is open source anyone can contribute to MTA to attempt to fix it. This includes a bunch of people who already do, but anyone can.

If you would be interested in that, these are the bits of the code I have been able to identify as responsible for handling player sync, especially their "ducked" state.

• Method where the packet is handled server side
• Class for pure sync packet definition, containing both their read and write methods, on the server
• Method where pure sync is handled client sided
• Method which applies the newly received duck state to the player

tl;dr: I haven't fixed it because I don't know how to. Go learn C++ and fix it yourself, relevant code is linked above.

Bullet sync

Now let's touch on the original reason for this topic too shall we, bullet sync. (relevant source code).
As Brophy explained, bullet sync is an MTA feature, not something SAES created. Bullet sync was created roughly 10 years ago, and updates to it were made roughly 8, 6 and 5 years ago, by people from the MTA team. (relevant git blame).
Bullet sync, in all intents and purposes is a finished MTA feature, there is no reason it should be "updated" especially since it is a relatively simple construct. What bullet sync does, is it transmits the start and end position of every bullet fired from a client (As can be seen in the packet definition).
The reason this performs better is because now a client knows exactly where the shooting client was aiming from and at at the moment they fired. While otherwise this would have to be re-calculated based on player position and synchronized camera position.

tl;dr: Bullet sync is a feature created by MTA, which is "finished", it's not abandoned, it's finished.

Mentality

The last bit I want to touch on is the mentality of people in this topic.

@Teller said in Do something with hitreg / fix bullet sync:

You're developer, fix the problem.

Let's be very clear here. Anyone who works on the server (and anyone who contributes to MTA) does this purely out of passion, as a hobby. None of us get paid for what we do for SAES, it is not a (full-time) occupation. So please, don't start making demands of us, this ungrateful and entitled behavior is exactly the reason why several developers have quit in the past. We spend our free time to try and make the game more fun for other people, least you could do is show some professional courtesy and not be a massive dickhead about it.

@XpookS said in Do something with hitreg / fix bullet sync:

( 6 months now they couldn't have a free time I guess to fix it yeah sure brother)

Sure, I've had free time in the last 6 months, plenty of it. And as is hopefully clear with everything I've stated above, obviously I have looked into the issue. But even if I didn't, I don't have to. You're talking about my free time, you do not get to dictate how I spend that. Whether I spend it working on SAES, playing SAES, working on other projects or doing literally nothing whatsoever is none of your business. And the attitude that you think somehow you do get to dictate how I spend my time just shows how fucking entitled you are.

We've seen your feedback in the previous jail topic, and we would like another round of feedback regarding a potential solution.

Those who did describe what they miss with the old jail was the perpetual DM / stalemate between cops and criminals. While the original reason we changed was because people complained the old jail would have jailbreaks last for hours, and be too easy.

The suggestion to re-introduce this lost gameplay, while keeping a more difficult jail as well is as follows:

• People with a wanted level of 1 to 36(*) stars go to the old jail, at LS jail
• People with a wanted level above 36(*) stars go to the current jail, at a new location**
• People who are arrested / killed within the old jail, will go to the old jail regardless of wanted level so the perpetual DM can live on

Please leave any feedback you may have.

We're looking at making a final decision soon, so please leave your opinion before Monday the 9th of August

* the 36 star level is an indication,
** New location is as of yet undecided, feel free to leave suggestions

As with the previous topics, keep replies civil and on topic.

Hey everybody,

I'm hosting a web-design contest. I'm looking for designers who are interested in creating a design for one of my projects. If you're not a designer yourself, but know someone who might be interested (in the community), let them know!

If you're interested in taking part in this contest and have any more questions, feel free to ask them in the topic here.

Description
The project I'm working on is a quadcopter drone. I'm programming a drone to (hopefully) be able to fly autonomously. I'll be controlling this through a web interface.

This web interface contains data-readouts, and various inputs. I currently already have a working (Work in progress) interface for this. But it looks rather crap:

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This example is far from what it will actually contain though, much more inputs will be required.

Prizes
The winner of the contest will be rewarded with €50.
In order to accept this prize you would require a PayPal account. If you are unable to accept this, I could donate €50 to SAES in your name instead (or steam games, or something like that).

Anyone who makes a "worthy" attempt, but has not won the contest will be rewarded 10 million in-game (as long as supplies last, I'm not the richest person ingame)

Requirements

• Must display current GPS position, in form of a map
• Must display current motor throttle in percentages (see example)
• Must display current orientation (yaw, pitch, roll)
• Must have space for many different kinds of inputs (buttons, texts, sliders, whatever)
  Whether you use tabs, modals, or anything else for this is up to you
• Ideally all would fit on a single display (1920x1080)
  • Fitting on a smaller screens (think tablets, 1024x768) is a nice bonus
• If you are chosen as winner, I will require the assets you used for the design (think images, fonts, color codes, etc)

Styling
I want it to look somewhat futuristic, think of all the fake ass stuff you see in movies. But then actually useful, in a sense that it's actually usable.

Now I still see a lot of people who are worried about the "abuse" that can happen. If we were to currently just make a new spawn with all of LWS' capibilities, yes it would be abused. Which is why ikzelf suggested doing some additional work to make sure it's safe for usage by the general public. Locking it to dimensions, changing the way advertisements work, changing the way events are displayed in the /event panel, etc.
Maybe even marking events hosted by LWS people a bit differently so they still stand out. But that's all minor issues.

In the end the most important thing is that the features of events are available to the players. And if LWS has insufficient capacity to host them (Which is the case, since otherwise this suggestion would never have been made) then I do believe the best course of action is to make the general public able to host events with the same set of tools LWS has.

Also:

@Ramos said in Public Event Hoster spawn:

Bullshit

In the future I'd like for everyone that if they have something to say about it, they actually explain why, and give arguments to support to views on the topic. Otherwise if the only opinions outed against the idea are as unsubstantiated as the one above then we can not take it seriously.

A little while ago GM announced a new set of rules, which included it's now allowed to use shaders in your mapping files. I've spent a couple hours creating a tool to create these shaders. The tool can be download here. The downloaded file includes both an installer and a readme file for installation instructions, and usage instructions.

So without further ado, here's a very simple example of a shader:

Before:

After:

NanoBob

Additional information:

To get images:

http://dev.prineside.com/en/gtasa_samp_model_id/

We'll take the sav wall as example

Find the object id : 16500 and search in that website it will spits out some results and you pick the one you need.

Click the objects and it shows more details

Then you are able to view what the current texture files are by pressing

a new window will open and shows every texture included.

but all we need is drvin_back

Save the image to a random folder and load it into photoshop and enjoy shadering

Specifications:
CPU: Core I7 6700K
GPU: AMD MSI R9 390X
RAM: 32 GB corsair vengeance DDR4
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2 NVME SSD, 2 Samsung 850 500GB SSDs in raid 0 & a seagate 4TB HDD
Cooling: Custom watercooling loop encompassing both the CPU and GPU, 360 radiator in the front.

Looking to upgrade my GPU when prices drop to an AMD RX Vega 64

If you find any issues could you please describe exactly how to reproduce them, and what you would like the behaviour to be.

Here's a list of things I'll look into changing:

• Seperate wanted level, give it a bit of a color
• Make health bar visible when nametag is visible
• Increase nametag range when aiming with a weapon
• Look into issue with players in the back of airplanes

@macgyver said in Show us your setup:

Ryzen 5 1600 AF
XFX RX 5 3000
18GB DDR4 TeamGroup 3200MHz
ASUS A320M

This seems to be incorrect.

Ryzen 5 1600 AF

The Ryzen 5 1600 AF comes with a "Wraith stealth" cooler. This cooler is circular, and has no RBB lighting. The cooler in the picture is square, and has RGB on it. While it is possible to buy a different AMD stock cooler, why would you?

XFX RX 5 3000

This is not an existing product. There is no "XFX RX 5 3000". XFX is a video card brand, RX is the name of a bunch of video cards from AMD, however there is no "5 3000".
Furthermore the video card in your picture has "AORUS" on the side, which is the gaming brand of Gigabyte, not XFX.

18GB DDR4 TeamGroup 3200MHz

RAM is sold in capacity that is a power of two, you can buy 4GB, 8GB, 16GB sticks, and so forth.
Your system does not have 18GB, since in the picture you see 2 RAM sticks, you can't come up to 18GB with just two sticks (Especially since the lowest capacity DDR4 you can buy is 4GB or 8GB).

Also, the RAM sticks in the picture look like they are in fact G Skill Trident Z RGB memory. Not "TeamGroup". And these modules are only available in capacities starting at 8GB, confirming that there is in fact no 18GB in the system.

ASUS A320M

ASUS A320M is not a complete motherboard name, there is however the ASUS A320M-K.
That also is not your motherboard though, because that motherboards is physically smaller than what you see in your picture.
You can see in your picture that you have a second expansion card plugged in what would be bottom slot of a full-size ATX motherboard. The ASUS A320M-K is however a micro-ATX motherboard, and thus would not have a slot in that position.

@Turbo said in The end of the Gypsy Jokers:

@NanoBob said in The end of the Gypsy Jokers:

I will especially miss those epic moments

This moment never happened. This is a lie. Photoshopped propaganda.

I also never was a fan of the sniper headshotting in turfs. (Hated it way back in the day (talking like 2013 ish) when i was in DE as well because in CLO/DE wars it just became a sniping contest, making all other weapons useless / unused. And I noticed the same when turfing as SoA about a year to half a year ago.

I would thus be in favour of splitting it up half in half. Although, just spitballing ideas here, what about if every time you start a turf you had a chance of a random weapon being picked for headshot (which of course would have to show up on screen somewhere). This I think could create a relatively dynamic turfing experience (albeit maybe not the most realistic option)

If doing so we might want to look into only allowing certain weapons, or giving weapons like M4 a (much) lower chance of being picked as headshot weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complicity

@MarksMan said in New addition to SAES:

So you have to be either asslicker or ri...
Oh wait James didnt get it, ok only asslicker

And you wonder why you were denied for community staff..

April fools starts in 5 minutes..

@Hoodie said in SAES Elections 2019 - RESULTS!:

rest assured that San Fierro South will return to its previous glory!

Just to add some information to this topic:
The organisation in question did not give SheraP permission to access the organisation bank account. This was the result of a bug, this bug has since been fixed.

I think we could all agree that if we were to stumble upon access to the organisation bank account, while you know you're not supposed to have access to it, it's not morally right to take all of this for yourself.

So no, this was not the "fault" of ICE members for trusting him, this was the result of a bug.

You guys do realise this topic is 4 months old, right?