The Battle of Tamou's Sister, circa 2020 colourised

Modeled on scoreboard we had on old forums, some healthy competition for those who are willing to partake! In addition to tracking amount of arrests, amount of stopped SR's included in separate scoreboard.

• Arrests Scoreboard

	Username	Nick	Value
1	nori999	O-X99-O	37335
2	iSsoUu	SAFP-iSsoUu	27118
3	hassoni	[FOX]Ha$$oni<VL>	25600
4	kajobecha	[FBI]Kajo	23791
5	snakeer	LE>Goodie[1312]	23619
6	chernobyl	SheraP	21278
7	thereis41	Z-Deu	19746
8	milicajac	[SWAT]DROT	19724
9	ogulcan01	[SWAT]Flusha	17976
10	buch	SAFP-Halo-COM	17186
11	dufabo1900	[SWAT]Dufabo-J1T	15343
12	kurcoglavi	[FOX]Kleptix<CoS>	15265
13	deeeep	[TT]Deep	14856
14	potato11	SAES>Kain	13631
15	bobi02	Absent	13397
16	cahek23	Sheriff.Sanek	12833
17	shadowr	SAPA-Shadro-CPL*	12260
18	davey	[TST]Davey[PVT]	11978
19	james69	ICE-James	11878
20	lasanhapt	[NNB]iLazy	11665
21	johnk	[FOX]Abdallah	11640
22	professorparadox10	U-Paradox	11627
23	hotgun	kris	11618
24	hasantahsin123	Five-0-Ryler	11234
25	nice3549	[SWAT]Niceez	11109
26	richardthekiller	Five-0-Richard	11034
27	elyessmaoui	[ThC]Curvyyy	10944
28	officerraven	teddy(cat)(AFK)	10693
29	blackxboy91	[FOX]007	10546
30	malek45	ColdX777	10532

• Stopped SRs Scoreboard

	Username	Nickname	Value
1	buch	SAFP-Halo-COM	2502
2	nori999	O-X99-O	2126
3	kajobecha	[FBI]Kajo	1866
4	kurcoglavi	[FOX]Kleptix<CoS>	1863
5	milicajac	[SWAT]DROT	1717
6	james69	ICE-James	1710
7	dufabo1900	[SWAT]Dufabo-J1T	1333
8	snakeer	LE>Goodie[1312]	1312
9	kellerman	SAFP-Kellerman	1261
10	hassoni	[FOX]Ha$$oni<VL>	1096
11	cahek23	Sheriff.Sanek	922
12	glastras96	ICE	Sam
13	iSsoUu	SAFP-iSsoUu	908
14	kenttabadat	Piggy	907
15	zoomspeed	ICE-Coma	898
16	johnk	[FOX]Abdallah	870
17	dariich	CC-Dariich	851
18	mctouch	Jeremy_Schmidt	842
19	gullbooy	[FBI]Darck	796
20	chernobyl	SheraP	794
21	nice3549	[SWAT]Niceez	781
22	professorparadox10	U-Paradox	752
23	alexdvla	Alex	751
24	breezy331	[FBI]Breezy	747
25	davey	[TST]Davey[PVT]	740
26	pulsarka	[SWAT*]Pulsee	728
27	fuerzas	SAFP-Robert-911-	722
28	bobi02	Absent	719
29	harrystt	[FOX]Access	707
30	piemonster11	SAES>Piem	702

To participate simply post a screenshot with /stats included.

If you're already on the scoreboard, please don't post new /stats unless there is at least 1000 arrests difference between your /stats from last time.

Hello!

I'd like to bring attention to ever forgotten and equally useless vehicle, the Enforcer.
About a year ago I suggested some changes to health or projectile resistance to make this slow vehicle somewhat useful, while that suggestion never made it through I came up with this one; higher number of possible players in the vehicle, increased passenger limit.

Even something as simple as /cargrab but with players appearing on the inside of the vehicle, or DE style command for sitting in the back of the Barracks would do the trick. Since glue is now nonexistent, it seems like a great time to give Enforcer the function that it was designed for - Transport!

It looks too cool to be left so useless!

SAPA-SAPD Regulations (OUTDATED):

• As of November 2019, recruitment of PC Testers as well as management of existent PC testers will from now be handled by SAPD HQ exclusively. SAPA membership is no longer a requirement. All SAPA-SAPD info in the spoiler below is no longer applicable.

PC Rules Update and Clarification (VALID):

• PC members are able to use PC spawn in order to quickly respond to nearby bank robbery. This includes both players that are or are not currently member of a squad. Squad members are now allowed to spawn Trainee/Trooper in order to reach BR faster, whether they be PC or not. Misbehaving while spawned as non-pc Police member may still lead to getting kicked from PC.

• Any cases of violation of PC rules by PC members must be passed directly to PCD personnel and not handled by present staff/admin, unless simultaneously in violation of server rules, interrupting gameplay and/or granting advantage to one player over others; in which case the situation should be related to PCD after staff/admin imposed sanctions on the player in question.

• PC members are allowed to execute role of K-9 dog handler while not using default PC spawns, including but not limited to: Squad, State Trooper, SAI, HLS etc. They are however not allowed to do so with any spawn not classed as police team spawn (e.g. criminal, civilian…).

• PC dog class spawned players must not travel, act or engage criminals on their own and must be instructed by their handler according to the situation. In case that the handler is killed in action, the dog must remain in same position until the handler arrives to collect it; unless actively partaking in ongoing combat based on commands previously issued by the handler, or acting in self defense. Dogs can only be transported using the back seat of four door vehicles, they may not travel on top of cars/bikes or “lay in trunks”.

• Prison Wardens serve the sole purpose of guarding the prison and may not gain major distance between themselves and the prison area unless actively chasing a fleeing suspect. Upon return to common duties not related to prison, wardens must select another spawn at the nearest disk. They are not allowed to partake in operations that are not tied to security of inner prison and its surrounding areas. Wardens may remain within the prison for unlimited time.

On Behalf of SAPD HQ,

Signed By: Deputy Chief of Police @Hesha

Here's a suggestion which comes with support of combined squad HQ's. Please do not fall for the usual "cops vs. crims" crap and vote against it just because you are a cop. That aside, here is the suggestion:

Reduce jail time from 7 to 5 minutes.

Nobody ejoys spending 7 minutes of their gaming time staring at the wall and I think that we can all agree on that. This leads people to alt-tab or AFK, they go around their business instead or perhaps launch a different game, sometimes they do not bother coming back to play at all for a while.

Server activity decreases, more people are AFK and less players are on the streets to actually play the game.
This is not good for anyone, be you criminal or cop.

November 2019 PC Tester Recruitment Results & PCD Recruitment Announcement

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• PC Tester Recruitment Results:

Congratulations to following candidates who successfully passed the application phase!

@Terry
@JohnnyEnglish
@Ramby
@Ramos
@Shadro

If your name is on the list of future PC testers, await further instructions in SAPD Discord.

• PCD - Police Complaints Department recruitment is ongoing! Apply here:
  https://saesrpg.uk/topic/13240/police-complaints-department-recruitment-2019

• PCD is now considered the second branch of [SAPD Staff] which consists of PC Testers and PCD detectives. PCD is no longer an independent department. Adjustments to PCD rules are likely to occur, granting PCD personnel more freedom. Additionally, PCD members are more likely to be selected as future PC testers/SAPD HQ than an average policeman would be.

• All current PCD detectives are dismissed from service. If active, you may re-apply following the link above.

Changes made will be reviewed after a period of observation and based on gathered information may remain, be adjusted or fully reverted.

- SAPD HQ

Hello boys!

As we all already know, PC (procop) is a group for experienced police team players which offers a few perks unavailable to trainees, troopers or even squads. While having a whole array of scripts made for it, very few of them are being used by players because A) Most of them are for roleplay B) They are outdated.

One such spawn is Police Dog. It is not able to arrest players in any way, must remain with its handler at all times and follow its instructions, is able to run at speed faster than humans and has only one ability: Slow.
Dog's slowing effect is the same effect that shotgun has, which is entirely useless now that every cop comes equipped with a shotgun. So why would anyone want to spawn dog if they can spawn as regular cop, and be able to slow people just like dog does but also arrest them, right?

What I am suggesting is making the dog bite have "crying" effect on wanted players, like tear gas does, but for a short moment.

This would hopefully encourage cops to try and use new tactics that include dogs, which could then potentially make both criminal and police gameplay more diverse and interesting. Keep in mind that dogs are still unable to arrest or even damage criminals and that this would bring no real advantage to police team, furthermore; dog spawn is available only to players with PC group membership so don't expect seeing many of them, if any at all.

Please share your thoughts below if you've any!

I think that I speak on behalf of most cop players when I say that we don't want more money, we don't want it to be easier to arrest criminals, we don't want a faster car or change of rules to make our gameplay easier. Will some people be happy if those things happened? Sure. Would cops become more active? No. Something that becomes clear after only a few days of playing as a cop is that your experience is very limited. Some people tend to say that cops can attend all the criminal activities and that both sides have access to same variety of choices.

This is absolutely untrue, let us take BR for example; yes it is true that both criminals and cops get to take part of BR, however criminals decide where and when, they choose their team before the start, they assign crackers, they organize defenses, they collect money and deliver it somewhere. What do cops do at BR in comparison? They show up and arrest people.
When there's a jailbreak, criminal has to operate the gates and organize defense as well as a way to get out. Cops on the other hand do the same what they did in BR, they show up and arrest people. A turf war is happening between two gangs, they're spraying grafitti and taking control of the area, they take multiple areas of the map and compete for map domination. Meanwhile, cops once again show up and arrest people. This pattern happens everywhere else, whatever the situation might be the cop player will always do the same thing, no matter where he goes.

For as long as cop gameplay is so limited and repetitive, people will get bored of it and go inactive. You won't get them active by giving them more money, weapons or cars, bringing new content to criminals then saying "cops can come to arrest at this new place too" doesn't make it new content for cops. Cops are treated as NPCs which are there only to respond to whatever criminals do. Until there are some serious changes made to cop gameplay rather than changes to cop/crim balance, people will find the experience boring because it really is boring.

I'll try to sum it up real quick.

1. Secondary languages rules need to be updated, ok

2. Both of adminjails you're talking about are valid. You're not allowed to shoot/try to arrest other cops because they accidentally hit you with their car while running on the road. The point about not knowing it was a police member is hard to believe since they were in a police car. Shooting unwanted people isn't allowed either, SRs included unless they're selling. If you think that someone is breaking the rules by assisting criminals at SR and avoiding stars, use the /report fuction instead of breaking the rules yourself.

3. People badmouthing other people is nothing uncommon, either man up or use /ignore. Do you expect us to add the 11th rule, "Don't talk bad things about ICE"? If your members are leaving just because someone told them that ICE is a bad squad, you should try finding more loyal members. The more you respond the happier people will be to try and push your buttons.

take our nightstick while you are at it too

In-game name: DROT
Username: milicajac
Age: 21
Nationality: Croatian
Previous bans/punishments: I was banned for shooting off the roof of SF CC, it is impossible to take damage up there. I did not know this at the time.
Why you think you would be suitable for the role: I am a rather bored guy with plenty of free time on my hands, hence I'm more active on MTA than might generally be considered healthy. Fortunately this bore me some knowledge about overall state of things on the server, I've met plenty of people (mostly on the other end of the nightstick, but that is irrelevant) and had quarrel with none. Except for my squad and one active group, I am not a member of anything else and this leaves me with free time I'd like to spend doing something helpful. Time zones can be a real nuisance with as wide variety of players that SAES has and since I'm often a late night player, that could come handy as well!

Offerbribe, Offerbribe, Offerbribe, Offerbribe,
Offerbribe, Offerbribe, Offerbribe, Offerbribe...

-NNB Gang, Lil' Tayber feat. Lil' Mootje

October 2019 PC Rules Update

Modern times require modern measures and in order to further encourage activity of PC personnel based on preferences of today, some changes were made to existent rules.

• PC members are no longer required to offer roleplay during car chases before attempting arrest. Instead they're required to issue two warnings before engaging, describing clear intention of arrest as well as command to surrender (/sur). If the suspect stops, they must be given time to surrender before the arrest, to get 75% off prison time for cooperation. Roleplay is encouraged but is not mandatory.

• Dog handler role may now be executed by any police member on police or squad team. Player using the dog spawn is responsible for following the PC rules related to dog spawn and is held responsible for any errors. Handler is no longer required to have PC diploma.

Changes made will be reviewed after a period of observation and based on gathered information may remain, be adjusted or fully reverted.

- SAPD HQ

Essential rights violation? wat
You gave away something willingly and have no right to demand it back.
It may be morally wrong from your perspective but that's all there is to it.

@kawaii said in kill-arrest:

Also,the main problem is not in the performance, the new system completely kills the usual gameplay dynamics.

Ahh yes... Those gameplay dynamics which include police shooting criminals even though it didn't arrest them back then, merely because it's borderline impossible to run with a nightstick down the jail hallway or through bank entry.

People were and still will be shooting you because the only other option is running en masse like sheep to the slaughter towards camping crims. It's just that you'd like to get an easy way out by teleporting to the hospital.

Stealing someone's unlocked car is not rulebreaking.
Shooting your own car that was stolen by someone else is not rulebreaking.
CDC members acting like 12yos is not something unusual, but also not rulebreaking.
Overall, people could be a bit more polite and less retarded in general but this is SAES and it's likely not possible.

What the heck are you talking about?

You wrote it as if everyone on this server is evil and trying to hurt you, poor victim Tamsouh who never did anything wrong.
It's your reputation that you made yourself, you are the one rulebreaking and getting adminjailed for it, you are the one getting into fights with everyone and their mother for no reason, why people mention your sister is because of how much you get triggered by it, it's all about you.

SAES is not a safe bubble where we all love and hug each other, it's a grim place full of politically incorrect faggots that like to insult, annoy and laugh at it all.

Hello!

I'd like to bring attention to daily pain many if not all of us have to go through. The infamous "/gunfix"! Currently nightstick/taser and sometimes shotgun get bugged at random times, as result the player is unable to arrest/tase/slow the person until writing /gunfix. What's likely to happen is that they will bug out again several moments later, but unfortunately /gunfix has 120secs of cooldown left to go before it can be used again. In the meantime you're left to run in circles and hope for surviving throughout the next minute.

I'm suggesting removing /gunfix cooldown entirely, or if it truly demands a cooldown for whichever reason, decreasing it by far. Ultimately I'd love to see gunfix issue resolved entirely but even just decreasing the cooldown would help!

Somewhat unbalanced suggestion considering criminals only use the /eject function while their car is stopped and a cop is in process of entering the car, to which they eject and save everyone in the car from getting arrested except the driver. It is evident that with time, players found different uses for the script than were intended upon its release (which is not necessarily always bad), however pretending that it only offers advantage to one side is just as wrong as it is untrue and nonsensical.

Greetings peasants.

Today I'd like to start a discussion concerning gangs/squads and how similar they are to each other at this point of time. Currently, one squad has access to everything that all other squads have as well, same goes for gangs minus ability to choose what they'd like to /sell. Differences between a gang/squad and another gang/squad falls down to small things like different skins, different name, different roleplay story (not always) or different choice of basic weapons and most importantly, different members.

To sum the point up:
Everything that FOX can have, ICE can have too, although their roles are entirely different.
Everything that CripZ have, AA can have too, although their roles are entirely different.
This makes all squads practically identical to other squads and gangs identical to other gangs.

What I'd personally like to see is making both gangs and squads different from other gangs and squads, giving them unique things that fit their roleplay, which other squad/gang would not have access to. AA roleplays arms dealers, so why not give them access to some weapons unavailable to other players or even make them able to sell some, like dual colt or uzi. NNB are narcotics based so they could be able to sell drugs, maybe get a police dog as third spawn. Tuga Thugs are martial arts oriented, so why not give them a knife, allow TST to have otherwise unavailable flying vehicles as they're air based and so on and so on. Each gang/squad could have its unique ability.

Of course, it'd all have to be nicely balanced and the examples I wrote above are the first thoughts I came up with of so take them with a grain of salt. The point stands, currently g/s are almost identical to one another and to my belief it would be way more interesting to make them unique.