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Here's a suggestion which comes with support of combined squad HQ's. Please do not fall for the usual "cops vs. crims" crap and vote against it just because you are a cop. That aside, here is the suggestion:

Reduce jail time from 7 to 5 minutes.

Nobody ejoys spending 7 minutes of their gaming time staring at the wall and I think that we can all agree on that. This leads people to alt-tab or AFK, they go around their business instead or perhaps launch a different game, sometimes they do not bother coming back to play at all for a while.

Server activity decreases, more people are AFK and less players are on the streets to actually play the game.
This is not good for anyone, be you criminal or cop.

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@nicus said in [SUGGESTION] Cooldown of 30 seconds for respawning at properties:

@Patrol said in [SUGGESTION] Cooldown of 30 seconds for respawning at properties:

Then in the community we ask ourselves " how to help and increase in numbers " the cop side ! ...

Become more interesting as a squad maybe.

That's a bullshit argument if I've ever heard one. Are you saying cop life is uninteresting and attracts fewer people not because they have by far fewer activities available to them compared to criminal side; but because squads are not interesting enough? That it is somehow responsibility of squads as players to make up for that lack of content and development? I could step down to that level and whenever you complain about having a hard time in BR/JB/SR or wherever and simply say "Become more skilled as a gang."

@KARIM said in [SUGGESTION] Cooldown of 30 seconds for respawning at properties:

isn't that strange when you see cops respawning every sec and crims get jailed for 420 secs and have no chance to come back ?

Considering that cops are commonly outnumbered 3 to 1, and that BR for example lasts some 3-5 minutes, it does not appear strange to me that cops get an opportunity to get return and participate several times. If you've 30 crims and 10 cops then it is not out of this world that those cops get to return and make up for lack of numbers. 10 cops returning 3 times may be seen as 30 cops, which are then in balance with 30 criminals. You may say that there could be a few cops that have properties right besides the location and will return more than 3 times, then also remember that criminals have the advantage of prior organization, all criminals can be there from point one while cops will require time to group up. Furthermore criminals have the advantage of defense, which is obviously more favourable than charging in down chokepoints while getting shot at.

All this in the end, in case of banks, sums up to criminals robbing all 8 safes around 80% of time in total as of today. Does that percentage alone not prove that cops did not become overpowered because of access to property spawns? They have it now and they're still losing 80% of time.

@Harmy said in [SUGGESTION] Cooldown of 30 seconds for respawning at properties:

It's kinda ironic that PC cops were getting punished ( prob still do if the rule still exists ) for respawning to respond to BRs faster but if it happens and you dumped a couple of millions to a nearby icon, it's considered ok.

This rule was removed a long time ago.

@Harmy said in [SUGGESTION] Cooldown of 30 seconds for respawning at properties:

No one should be allowed to spawn to props to gain advantage anyhow, including turf wars, bank robberies and even jailbreaks, aka in places with a lot of friction between the sides. Props should be treated as props, not strategic spawn locations.

At bank robberies you as a criminal have the advantage of numbers, defense and prior organization. Cops in return get to come back repeatedly by spawning nearby to make up for the balance loss. If 10 cops are trying to breach into a BR with 30 crims which lasts 2min in total, not allowing them to respawn nearby to return gives criminals even more advantage. Currently while cops have the ability to respawn at properties, most BRs are still completed by criminals. Why further ruin the BR balance, to make it even easier for crims even though they win some 80% times already?

As for JB, you do have the portable spawn point as you call it; within the jail itself as a criminal. I don't see why cops would be forced to return from hospital if they're shot, especially since there is warden spawn right there. Using property to reach jail is slower than spawning a warden, which nowadays come equipped with weapons.

All things considered it is perfectly clear that players targeted here are cops. Criminals do not use properties to respawn and return to BR, they do not use properties to return to JB. Why? Because when they get killed there they get arrested and move to jail, at no point do they get to use their property to respawn. It is easy to go around loudmouthing that "No one should be allowed to spawn to props to gain advantage" when it is clear that it is only cops that do so and that you personally who main a crim will not be affected by these changes, rather you will be impacted positively as cops will be around even less frequently.

(I don't attend turfs so I won't say anything about that one.)

TL;DR - Trying to weaken cops when they're statistically losing majority of activities and empower the already winning side (crims) is stupid. Stop going head-on into every activity as a criminal expecting to win, properties allow cops to make up for massive lack of numbers and helps them sometimes (rarely) win events such as BR. Criminals are already winning on ALL fronts, in which reality does it make sense to make their winning frequency even higher? It is not all about winning, you have to lose sometimes too. Cops have been on the losing end for years now, however the moment criminals started losing and failing BRs merely 20% of times, plenty of random "nerf cops" suggestions like this started appearing.

Man up and grow a pair, you have to lose sometimes too. Cops aren't NPC's and we're sick of crims winning all the time.

Thanks everyone! Except for Jonathan, fuck you Jonathan!

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