Police Team Balance Changes!

[Kain]

Good Evening!

It's no secret that the police team has been made largely redundant for quite a while now with very little people spawned aside from the odd new player and eager squad recruit.

We have deduced that one of the primary reasons for this is the lack in variety due to a large quantity of the spawns being "locked" behind the ProCops qualification.

Consequently, the SAPD team have put together a number of changes in an attempt to both increase the variety and motivation in playing as a police team member which is more appealing to both new players and non-squad players alike.

These changes primarily feature increasing the availability of the previously locked ProCops spawns while also trying to maintain the value that holding a ProCops qualification once held.

The changes can be found below:

Public Spawns:

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Name: Police Officer Trainee
Arrest Requirement: 0
Spawn Locations: LS, LV, SF
Description: Entry spawn
Gain: None
Images:

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Name: Prison Warden Trainee
Arrest Requirement: 250
Spawn Locations: LS Prison
Description: Jail trainee spawn
Gain: Dedicated jail spawn
Images:

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Name: State Trooper
Arrest Requirement: 750
Spawn Locations: LS, LV, SF
Description: Highway troopers
Gain: Faster vehicles/shotgun
Images:

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Name: Traffic Officer
Arrest Requirement: 1000
Spawn Locations: LS, LV, SF
Description: Traffic officers enforcing speed limits
Gain: Access to /speedtrap
Images:

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Name: Police Officer
Arrest Requirement: 2000
Spawn Locations: LS, LV, SF
Description: Qualified police officer
Gain: M4/Variety of skins
Images:

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Name: Police Marine
Arrest Requirement: 3000
Spawn Locations: South LV
Description: Officers dedicated to protecting the seas
Gain: Sea Predators
Images:

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Name: Sherriff
Arrest Requirement: 4000
Spawn Locations: RC, BC, TR, Whetstone
Description: Sherriff's dedicated to protecting all counties
Gain: Remote spawn locations
Images:

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ProCops Spawns:

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Name: Police Detective
Arrest Requirement: 0 / PC Qualification Required
Spawn Locations: All cities/counties
Description: The primary spawn for all PC qualified officers
Gain: M4/Sniper/Unique skins
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Name: Prison Warden
Arrest Requirement: 0 / PC Qualification Required
Spawn Locations: LS Prison
Description: Specialised riot control for LS Prison
Gain: M4/Sniper/Unique skin
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Name: Police Dog
Arrest Requirement: 0 / PC Qualification Required
Spawn Locations: LS, LV, SF
Description: Dog unit for chasing and slowly fleeing suspects
Gain: Enhanced speed/biting capabaility
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Name: Dispatcher
Arrest Requirement: 0 / PC Qualification Required
Spawn Locations: SF
Description: Dispatch unit for all SAPD units
Gain: Access to /coord
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Arrest Reward Changes:

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The reward for arrests has been slightly changed such that:

• Non ProCops officers receive 10% less reward than current
• Official Squads receive the current reward when spawned
• ProCops qualified receive 10% more reward when spawned as any policing class
  

Credits:

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• Special thanks to @Steven for making the new unique PC skins
• Special thanks to the SAPD team for helping put these changes together
  

Feel free to leave any feedback below!

Thanks,
SAES Team

[moley.]

[Lincoln]

[General]

tHANK YOU!!!11

[Crank]

[Dalb]

Thx @Steven

[Friction]

[Paradox]

Add Prison Warden to 'Arrest requirement' too like old times

[nulgath]

[Marko.]

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@nulgath said in Police Team Balance Changes!:

Was about to suggest it, radio must be locked to PC/Squads only or it's gonna be a mess.

Weapons aswell can be stored in disks so it might be abused.

And setting speedtraps, barriers and stingers should be either locked to specific spawn or just PC .. prefer if just PC imo.

and ye PC can get wanted if spawned as non-PC spawn.

Thank you.

[General]

@Kain change the name of Sheriff to Sheriff Deputy, and add Sheriff and Sergeant spawn for PC-only so we don't get stars when we kill an unwanted crim
or make a script so PC members don't get stars while spawned as Cop

(Sergeant for LVPD,SFPD,LSPD, etc)

[Dalb]

Balanced!

[Kain]

@Marko said in Police Team Balance Changes!:

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@nulgath said in Police Team Balance Changes!:

Was about to suggest it, radio must be locked to PC/Squads only or it's gonna be a mess.

Weapons aswell can be stored in disks so it might be abused.

And setting speedtraps, barriers and stingers should be either locked to specific spawn or just PC .. prefer if just PC imo.

and ye PC can get wanted if spawned as non-PC spawn.

Thank you.

Thanks for the feedback.

I would like to try and keep the radio as is, any abuse of the radio will lead to mutes.
More communication is always better.

Speedtrap we would like to keep public as this is under utilised currently.

Barriers/Stingers will remain locked to PC. (A fix will be be pushed to stingers).

Getting wanted on a non-PC spawn is also an intended feature.

[Wizax]

Pretty fascinating changes, I hope it will be sufficient to balance both sides.

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;From my perspective, the skin of the Prison Warden does not fit. It's just a point of view

[General]

@Kain What about PC members getting stars? can we make them not get stars while spawned as a non-PC cop?

Or should Sheriff be kept for PC, deputy sheriff for public spawn, and sergeant for SAPD?

I think it's a simpler, and good idea if we, PC members don't get stars in these spawns.

[Kain]

@General said in Police Team Balance Changes!:

@Kain What about PC members getting stars? can we make them not get stars while spawned as a non-PC cop?

Or should Sheriff be kept for PC, deputy sheriff for public spawn, and sergeant for SAPD?

I think it's a simpler, and good idea if we, PC members don't get stars in these spawns.

Police Detective has been added to all counties and I would recommend choosing that for now.

If this is something, more people want then feel free to suggest it

[Marko.]

@General said in Police Team Balance Changes!:

@Kain What about PC members getting stars? can we make them not get stars while spawned as a non-PC cop?

Or should Sheriff be kept for PC, deputy sheriff for public spawn, and sergeant for SAPD?

I think it's a simpler, and good idea if we, PC members don't get stars in these spawns.

Your suggestion is implying ranks that can make PC sound like a squad or similar to SAI.

What would be better is a feature like you saying for PC not getting wanted even when spawned as Marine or any public / non-PC spawn

In other words, you get wanted as Police Marine if you are not PC but if you are PC and spawned as Police Marine then you don't get wanted on killing by mistake or sth.

[General]

@Marko If that was true, then it's already a squad ._.

[Kain]

Weapon storing has also been patched for none Trainees.

Stinger fix also pushed.

Thanks for spotting.

[General]

@Kain I'll use that spawn for the meanwhile I also like it, but I also liked the Sheriff spawn for PC-only as my PC character is Rick Grimes, but what you did was great, and I applaud you. maybe I should suggest that script, but for the moment this suggestion should be #1 waiting ticket.

https://saesrpg.uk/topic/32110/suggestion-replace-the-current-scripted-police-led-lights-with-a-better-pattern-suggestion