SOLVED [CHANGE] BR Rules

  • @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    More BRs for example would even encourage people to want to play as a cop because it's just as fun to try and stop them for some people as it is to rob for others

    There are already many BR's happening every day. Nothing has changed for the cop side. Come in-game to see the situation before post here.

  • @sherap2-0 It doesn't take a genius to see that you can't quite grasp the simplicity of what I'm trying to say to you.

    I'm not saying "get rid of cops" I'm simply saying that the server can function without them, but obviously it is 100% better with them and even better when there are cops who understand that criminal activities need to happen in order for the server to be fun.

    I have to ask you, are you even having fun when you join? Is it fun for you to camp race flags and stop them from happening? Or would it be more fun if you allowed them to start and chased them during the race? Is it fun for you to see and prevent a BR from ever happening or is it more fun to try and stop it once it starts? These are the things that you need to ask yourself, because if every cop thought like you then there wouldn't be any criminals to chase would there?

    I honestly don't understand why people like you, or more specifically just you, can't understand that your actions have a detrimental effect on what happens in the server. If you camp raceflags then you are stopping 10 people from doing that activity, which means any groups in relation to that activity become more and more inactive which in turn provides less wanted racers for other cops to arrest. If you fuck up criminals grouping for a BR it has the same effect on those gangs, and the cops who would be chasing them.

    I am honestly not sure if you are seriously this stupid or if you're one of the best trolls I have ever come across.

    But, one thing I am sure of is if this is the attitude that you have then that "pls final chance pls" from your last ban appeal won't work on your next.

  • As jay said : Something happening is better than nothing cuz the gameplay become boring .
    +1 for discounting the scripts to 7 squad members .

  • Can we get back to topic;

    Rather then change this, change the PBR system to happen more. It's the same event, it just doesn't count towards HLS results.

    If it's about that then I stand by my point of this suggestion being focussed on wanting higher results rather then having the activity. Since we all know CLO is not allowed to come to ANY criminal org. So it's already about having the best score rather then having a server activity.

  • @weppo Believe it or not BR > PBR and it's different!

  • @Weppo BR and PBR are not the same at all. The whole gameplay and way you get paid is different, the only similarity is they happen in the same place.

    If you would like to see that system change then I would say create a topic for that.

    BRs are part of a gang requirement, a PBR is not.

  • @jay Last time I had an argument with DROT about the importance of BRs he told me and I quote: "BRs aren't a reqruirement" and I much rather use the words of a gang manager then a group manager.

    We have 2 very capable scripters in SAES who can make it like, like I suggested before.

    The first PBR you attend will give you 100% payment and every other PBR you attend will give you 5 or 10% payment. That way it is still a good incentive to go. Also a PBR is far more entertaining since you also have a dropoff.
    Way more of activity time then the 2:10 BRs JK was doing IMO

    Also bring back HLS DE or CLO back to BRs. We all know these groups also have a role within these activities which has been lacking lately.

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  • @Weppo BRs are absolutely part of a requirement and I don't know why you would be told otherwise.

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    https://saesrpg.uk/topic/375/gang-level-requirements-rewards

  • @weppo I doubt anyone cares about the BR money in 2021 kek

  • @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    I have to ask you, are you even having fun when you join?

    Yes.

    @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    Is it fun for you to camp race flags and stop them from happening?

    It is not about fun. It is my role/work... i must prevent illegal events ( SR,BR,Turf,Races) as cop. Fulfill my role is my fun.

    @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    Or would it be more fun if you allowed them to start and chased them during the race?

    Racers become " invisible " after the race to start so i cant shoot at their cars. Come in-game to see the real server situation before posting here. You are embarrassing.

    @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    Is it fun for you to see and prevent a BR from ever happening or is it more fun to try and stop it once it starts?

    Imagine 5 cops responding to a BR against 25 defenders ( this what is happening nowadays ).Thats why we need to respond before BR to start. Come in-game and you will know it.

    @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    If you camp raceflags then you are stopping 10 people from doing that activity,

    It is my role. Should I leave the crims alone in a SR/BR ? No ? The same goes to race flags. If there are 10 racers they can call their friends to kill me while the race doesnt start.

    @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    I am honestly not sure if you are seriously this stupid

    Im not disrespecting you so dont disrespect me.

    @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    But, one thing I am sure of is if this is the attitude that you have then that "pls final chance pls" from your last ban appeal won't work on your next.

    I would prefer to be banned than to see mindsets like yours killing the cop side.
    " this server ultimately doesn't need cops to survive. " Jay, 2021.

  • This suggestion cant be accepted. Making crimminal life more easy will attract new players to crim side instead of cop side. We need to focus in cop side improvement to attract newbies to cop life.

  • @bisollini said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    @weppo I doubt anyone cares about the BR money in 2021 kek

    Same but you would still have to consider it when making these types of suggestions

  • @jay said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    @Weppo BRs are absolutely part of a requirement and I don't know why you would be told otherwise.

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    https://saesrpg.uk/topic/375/gang-level-requirements-rewards

    I know this, yet I still got told that it's for the sake of adding something for the media archive like a vip or sr.

    Anyhow, this suggestion has not been made with the reason of meeting reqruirements. It's made because crims want the br activity to return. Therefore a pbr is similar enough and hes more acticity to offer compared to a regular br. F

  • @weppo Brs are optional in a sense that you don't have to do them if you choose to do turfs/grs instead.

  • @drot yes and that attitude is why the cop reqruirement came.

    Because half the cop force is going to an empty SR or an abandoned VIP rather to the server activity were the player interaction happens. (Which this server is about since its SAESRPG not SAESRP)

    Criminals here clearly state that they DO believe that BRs are more important and more interesting. And for them it's even a reqruirement. Even though you stated the opposite.

    I will say it again, I do still believe PBRs should be more common. With a decrease in payment after the first participation. (Minimum amount 50k, bonus for the first pbr 500k; if done successfully)

  • @weppo I think you should play as a criminal abit too or look at it from both points of view.

  • @bisollini said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    @weppo I think you should play as a criminal abit too or look at it from both points of view.

    I have played crim for years back then, I'll stick with cops since I got my groups

  • @sherap2-0 What your brain can't comprehend is, this is not a ROLEPLAY server, this is a ROLEPLAY GAME (RPG) server. Although RP is a proportion of the actual gameplay, it is not the dominant side. And what you do whilst you play the game in different classes is not represented as "roleplay". In real life, cops do not put spikes in front of racers who are about to race and shoot their cars with M4 Carbine rifles to stop them from racing. If you want to ROLEPLAY, you can refer to light-medium-heavy roleplay servers depending on your choice. RPG servers are a mix of arcade-roleplay combination but the arcade side always comes out on top to maximize the joy. If you want to give criminals a hard time on their bankrobs, use your role as a police officer within the borders of the server rules to try and stop them. Don't just spawn as another class/quit the game. This mentality of yours alone proves that you don't understand the atmosphere of the server you're playing in. If you want to stop racers from racing, don't camp their start line. Try to get them during the race or after the race. You suck the joy out of everything EVERYONE does in the server and think that you're the only perfect thing on this server? You really have to change your perspective on this or I'm gonna start to think that your brain capacity is at a so low level, you can not comprehend what Jay, Groove or anyone has been saying at this point.

  • @durby said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    In real life, cops do not put spikes in front of racers who are about to race and shoot their cars with M4 Carbine rifles to stop them from racing.

    In real life, gang members dont become cop to bribe others gang members.

    @durby said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    use your role as a police officer within the borders of the server rules to try and stop them

    Crimminals saying how cops should act. Thats funny. I will repeat just for you because i liked your nickname : There is not way to 5 cops stop a BR against 25/30 crims. Thats why we cant make crimminal side more easy.. we need attract newbies in the server to cop side.

    @durby said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    Don't just spawn as another class/quit the game.

    Do you have proofs against me doing this ? No ? So stay quiet. When you to see me doing this , just admjail me.

    @durby said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    Try to get them during the race

    Read my last post before posting here.

    @durby said in [CHANGE] BR Rules:

    You suck the joy out of everything EVERYONE does in the server and think that you're the only perfect thing on this server? You really have to change your perspective on this or I'm gonna start to think that your brain capacity is at a so low level, you can not comprehend what Jay, Groove or anyone has been saying at this point.

    Respect me.Insulting a hated player isnt the best way to promote yourself in front of SAES HQ. You can to show your value by hard-working in the server ( dealing reports, helping newbies in the server, etc... )