Reporting ****

  • So, today while i was spawned as SAFP, my friend @sajjad Was DMing me, for fun.
    and i was DMing him too, because we were doing it for fun. then Jason came and AJ'ed my friend Sajjad, and another player (which he was helping sajjad). And the reason of the AJ was "42", we talked with Jason. and Jason said "Some other clan member requested me to AJ him." every time when we ask Jason, Jason kept ignoring the request, or changing the Subject.
    So, now we want to know who told Jason to AJ Sajjad, and why.
    Note: I didn't report sajjad, or the other player. no one did
    And i give @sajjad the permissions to replay here, since he is the one who got AJed

  • I was the other player and yes, I remember I didn't dm anyone and been trying millions of times to ask him to explain what I've done or even to let me contact with the one who requested that, but he didn't and kept sending the same message "Some other clan member requested me to admin jail you for Deathmatching", okay I don't have any problem with it but even explain to me what I've done as I clearly see that I didn't dm anyone. (I've got all the screenshots for the whole conversation between me and Jason if needed).

  • Just as @Immortal Said. And send the SSs if possible

  • I was asked to adminjail 2 people by another clan member/admin, so i did, and the reason was deathmatching.
    I did not witness this happen nor did I question the other admins judgement on the issue. he saw it, I trust him so I carried out the punishment on his behalf.
    If the other admin wishes to discuss it further he may do so, but its not for me to talk about what happens in other chats that are private.

  • Alright, mention him here please so we could discuss it and clear the air, so everyone knows what wrong he did as I've no idea what I've done, all I know is that I did a dm, to who, where, when, no idea, so that is why I'm asking you so we know what we've done. @Jason

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  • @Jason said in Reporting ****:

    I was asked to adminjail 2 people by another clan member/admin

    Will you punish anyone if any clan member asked you to do so even without even bothering to check if he actually broke a rule?

    @Jason said in Reporting ****:

    the reason was deathmatching.

    I'm afraid the reason is invalid and you knew it back then as Fenter -the one who got shot- asked you multiple times to let us out and so did I and my friend @Immortal but you just neglected all three of us.

    @Jason said in Reporting ****:

    I did not witness this happen nor did I question

    If you didn't see any reason nor bothered to ask us me and Immortal -mature, old, and kind of reputable community members- about what happend why did you take the action? Not to mention that you did not even bother to answer our concerns me, Immortal, and Fenter in a proper manner.

    @Jason said in Reporting ****:

    its not for me to talk about what happens

    If it was another admin who took the actions, me and I assume my other friends here would report him but neither you want to declare the name of the so called " clan member who request to AJ you" nor did he step up.

    @Jason said in Reporting ****:

    I trust him so I carried out the punishment on his behalf.

    Humans are prone to mistakes and even the most solid screenshots are arguable, wouldn't it be fair to spectate this or even ask Fenter if he was getting abused?

    @Jason said in Reporting ****:

    its not for me to talk about what happens in other chats that are private.

    I beg your pardon here, you were the one who took the action and hence you're responsible for your actions especially when you're an old decent clan member which should be an idol or atleast a guide to all of us the community members.

    Additionally, I just want to mention that I tried to slove it in a cool manner inside the server with you several times and then I had made a small report about it so you may consider it but instead you deleted it and just said and I quote "nice report Sajjad".

    Furthermore, I didn't want to get this far and even after my friend filed the report I didn't want to get enrolled in it. And I'm really sorry for this long reply and my language but it just got out of my hand while writing.

    When all is said and done, I just want to have a nice gameplay here without being cocky, rude, annoying, unpleasant..etc you name it to anyone here I even avoid reporting people and I'm sorry again cause we got here.

  • @sajjad Well said, mate.
    We all respect you, Jason. but you also should respect us too, we're not those amateurs who have joined yesterday or something, we been here for years and rarely you see one of us breaking a server rule, even this aj been my second one through my entire g life on the server.
    and talking generally, we should play it fairly, not because you're a cop to feel salty about your side and as a result, start admin jailing whoever touches a cop, no that's totally wrong and speaking of it I've got kicked from the server today and when I asked why, he told me "piss off", how you feel it...
    just play it nice and fair, have a nice day.

  • @Sam-B can you add information regarding this please.

  • Hello,

    I feel Jason is taking the brunt of this when in fact i asked him to issue the jails and he did so on my behalf as i currently have no access ingame.

    There was a report that i saw that mentioned the two of you deathmatching. As well as this, when i was sat at LV X when you two were shooting other players you also deathmatched myself by shooting the vehicle i was in.

    I know you havent been around for a short time and frankly i feel you should know better than to dm people at LV X and catch other people in the cross fire. If you want to DM eachother for fun, do it where it doesn't affect anyone else.

    As such i asked jason to do it and as far as i was lead to believe he told you the reasoning as to why ingame as i then went afk for a bit.

    Hopefully this clears the air and everyone can move on.

  • @Sam-B said in Reporting ****:

    I feel Jason is taking the brunt of this

    He should since he didn't elaborate the reasons for the AJ and did not bother to slove it and you may refer to previous reply for a proper reasoning.

    @Sam-B said in Reporting ****:

    There was a report that i saw that mentioned the two of you deathmatching.

    Reports are usual thing in SAES and precentage wise false reports are much more than accurate reports and that's why there is admins checking each reports instead of making automatic system that jails players after each report.

    @Sam-B said in Reporting ****:

    ou two were shooting other players you also deathmatched myself by shooting the vehicle i was in.

    I didn't shoot players as plural I solely shoot Fenter and so Immortal did. I did not shoot you or any other players/vehicles.

    @Sam-B said in Reporting ****:

    I know you havent been around for a short time and frankly i feel you should know better than to dm people at LV X and catch other people in the cross fire.

    Again I didn't shoot any people in the cross fire. I even couldn't manage to kill Fenter in most cases. No one but Fenter got damaged; ask anyone who was in LVX, for example I recall @Bodo420 was there all the time building and he probably had his truck parked, ask him if he or his truck was damaged, I can assure 100% no one got damage by my actions.

    @Sam-B said in Reporting ****:

    If you want to DM eachother for fun, do it where it doesn't affect anyone else.

    It was not a DM as much as it was chums play for fun (ain't this the purpose of the game afterall?) and if the place was bothering you why did not you tell us I mean I would gladly change the place and so on @Immortal .

    @Sam-B said in Reporting ****:

    Hopefully this clears the air and everyone can move on.

    I hope we could get a fruitful outcome.

  • I didn't shoot your car, I didn't even know that you were there or around and didn't shoot any single bullet at anyone I was clearly shooting Fenter who was trying to arrest Sajjad, that's all I've done, there were no vehicles on the position where I was aiming even if Sajjad did while shooting the cop so it's acceptable, we don't have that great accuracy like yours, even the cop didn't report us (sounds strange but let's just say it).
    btw, Jason told me that you requested to AJ me and Sajjad as you've seen us dming and now you're saying that there was a report and obviously I've got admin jailed immediately after the accident, so I'd say it's a fake report or you've taken a fast action towards us and now you're trying to prove yourself that you're right, I'd see if you apologize for that mistake would be better for both of us, unless if you showed me, let's say, the screenshot which has been attached to the report proving that I was dming someone, so in this case, I'd be the one who gives the apology.

    @Brophy

    EDIT: @sajjad denied shooting any vehicles around,so from where on earth did you came with this, none of us shot your car or even seen you around? @Sam-B

  • -Here is an ss proving that Fenter didn't report us and Jason telling him that it was requested by an admin who has SEEN it
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    The whole conversation between me and Jason:
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    I was standing exactly here at my site and the event took place there,there were no cars,none passing,NOTHING,only me here shooting at Fenter who is chasing Sajjad.

  • You haven't provided us any evidence that what Sam is saying is false, therefor the punishment is considered valid.