HS back for CLO & DE

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  • @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    Considering that clo and de are supposed to be rp groups and imo shouldn't be near brs as it pollutes and waters down the presence of normal cops and criminals, how about you get hs back at the cost of de/clo don't attend br/sr anymore?

    We have a command to disable armor and duals in SR, you can add headshot to that instead of removing us from SRs though

  • How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

  • @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

    Whats the point we already have that, we can headshot DE and they can headshot us if both groups agree which is the case in a war

  • Can't we discuss this in CLO discord @Brophy since you are there and you could communicate with other CLOs and hear them out?

  • @Tritosh said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

    Whats the point we already have that, we can headshot DE and they can headshot us if both groups agree which is the case in a war

    Yeah but my thinking is if it only affects special groups, then we keep it permantantly enabled (no need for toggle) as it doesnt affect the general population.

  • @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Tritosh said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

    Whats the point we already have that, we can headshot DE and they can headshot us if both groups agree which is the case in a war

    Yeah but my thinking is if it only affects special groups, then we keep it permantantly enabled (no need for toggle) as it doesnt affect the general population.

    Considering the vote on the poll, i dont think the general population minds it, they want it back actually. We can always disable headshot at SR/BR so it doesnt turn into a huge mess, but outside of those activities i dont see the reason why it shouldnt be on at all times against anyone, CLO and DE are not that active, we have like 5 players online average. And IIRC the reason why it was removed was because it was used in BR's, cant we just disable it at interior so it doesnt work in jail and in banks, then also disable it at SR?

  • @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Tritosh said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

    Whats the point we already have that, we can headshot DE and they can headshot us if both groups agree which is the case in a war

    Yeah but my thinking is if it only affects special groups, then we keep it permantantly enabled (no need for toggle) as it doesnt affect the general population.

    It would be completely useless as DE are not as active as CLO. Besides, we mainly wanted headshot back to make us a bit more special like we were once before, limiting it only for us to use it against DE that has no reason to spawn other than backing up cops. And how are we going to defend ourselves with the current kit that are the same as a normal gang member except for armor which doesn't benefits us much against HLS which has the arresting capability with armor and even against normal criminals when CLOs aren't present (Attending jail breaks after 15mins rule) ?
    Bringing headshot back to both groups will slightly increase their activity and people will be more interested to join them like it used before, making DE and CLO headshot each other only is completely useless as it will never be used for the current rules that both groups have.

  • @Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Tritosh said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

    Whats the point we already have that, we can headshot DE and they can headshot us if both groups agree which is the case in a war

    Yeah but my thinking is if it only affects special groups, then we keep it permantantly enabled (no need for toggle) as it doesnt affect the general population.

    Considering the vote on the poll, i dont think the general population minds it, they want it back actually. We can always disable headshot at SR/BR so it doesnt turn into a huge mess, but outside of those activities i dont see the reason why it shouldnt be on at all times against anyone, CLO and DE are not that active, we have like 5 players online average. And IIRC the reason why it was removed was because it was used in BR's, cant we just disable it at interior so it doesnt work in jail and in banks, then also disable it at SR?

    That could be another way to go with it yes.

  • @Brophy in the end it's not like you will have 50-60 constant CLOs that will headshot the entire server. I don't see any reason not to allow it in the open space. It can stay turned off at SR and BR.

    #makespecialgroupsspecialagain 😛

  • @Rzz0 said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Tritosh said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

    Whats the point we already have that, we can headshot DE and they can headshot us if both groups agree which is the case in a war

    Yeah but my thinking is if it only affects special groups, then we keep it permantantly enabled (no need for toggle) as it doesnt affect the general population.

    Considering the vote on the poll, i dont think the general population minds it, they want it back actually. We can always disable headshot at SR/BR so it doesnt turn into a huge mess, but outside of those activities i dont see the reason why it shouldnt be on at all times against anyone, CLO and DE are not that active, we have like 5 players online average. And IIRC the reason why it was removed was because it was used in BR's, cant we just disable it at interior so it doesnt work in jail and in banks, then also disable it at SR?

    As the current DE leader, i totally agree with that this guy just said +1

  • @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    How about changing it so it only affects the special groups that use it, so CLO can only headshot DE and vice versa. Therefore you get access back to it but it doesnt fuck over the general population.

    If that’s the way you think, then HLS also should not be able to mess with the general player base with their current trainees with armor role by either removing their armor or removing their baton and taser.

  • Kain has added headshots back for a trial.

    They work only in the main dimension and are disabled within interiors (ie banks etc) and store robs.

    Not sure if the resources responsible have been restarted yet, but it should be within the next 24 hours.

  • @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    Kain has added headshots back for a trial.

    They work only in the main dimension and are disabled within interiors (ie banks etc) and store robs.

    Thank you

  • level of violence by head shots

  • @James said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    level of violence by head shots

    Level of retardness has increased, violence wouldn't matter now