• I remember it was disabled due unfair to community but as we can see now comunity wants it back with +%75 vote
    Only disable it in interiors like jb and br and its ok! @kenny

  • I'm a hundred percent with this suggestion because this will encourage more players to join special groups and this will make those groups more special. Actually, you can just disable it at bank and jail interiors to keep it balanced for SAPD and to give them chance to arrest, maybe keeping it for SR is not that bad because cops can just hide and reach the SR using a vehicle, this will encourage cops to arrest before they use long-range weapons to kill.

    Also, I think it will balance both sides and it would motivate both groups to respond, either to SAPD calls (for DE) and criminal activities (for CLO). many skilled niqqers are willing to have it open 24/7. hidden talents gonna rock

  • Honestly, i do not really mind, strong has a point but HS is not the main reason.

    If it goes live, yea, BR/JB and shit should be off

  • I agree with @Patrol for the beggining maybe it's too much at activities like BR JB (SR discussable too) but in the open world it should be no problem

  • @Rzz0 We do have more DEs, but we barely spawn for either SR or BR

  • @Kim CLO doesnt go to BR's anymore too, gangs do not want us and if CLO is not at the BR then DE cant come too. Almost everytime im at a JB as CLO a HLS/DE will come, so from what i've seen DE does respond to a lot of the activities, the thing is they need CLO to be present to be able to respond. Right now both groups are kinda "dead" the only thing your average DE/CLO member has over a normal player is armor (useless), and if he's airborne he has a bunch of cool vehicles that you also cannot use unless there's a war (except for stunting with hydra lmao)

  • hs4back!
    all reasons said alrdy, de/clo are special groups & before ~2016 hs was on 24/7, hs was used at hr/sr & jb & alot dm fests with even more clo/de activity than now, and no one even cryed about hs that time..
    nowdays clo is seen as "op" because cant use k-pannel on them, bitch pls earlyer k-pannel didnt even existed, clo activity is maybe ~1% from all wanted players = as cop you will chase 99% normal criminals & only 1% (or less) of your time you will fight clos. and if you to scared to fight clos, than just go for regular players, k-pannel locates anyways every regular player (wich is no way op, but clo arent located k-pannel is op yeye)

  • @Strong said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    I'm a hundred percent with this suggestion because this will encourage more players to join special groups and this will make those groups more special. Actually, you can just disable it at bank and jail interiors to keep it balanced for SAPD and to give them chance to arrest, maybe keeping it for SR is not that bad because cops can just hide and reach the SR using a vehicle, this will encourage cops to arrest before they use long-range weapons to kill.

    Also, I think it will balance both sides and it would motivate both groups to respond, either to SAPD calls (for DE) and criminal activities (for CLO). many skilled niqqers are willing to have it open 24/7. hidden talents gonna rock

    Yes i agree with this, thats why i wanted to join clo in old years :d

  • Fuck yes its already utterly stupid that HLS and DE can respond to CLO's while we are just like any other spawn in 90% of the situations. Jailbreaking where we don't even respawn with armour, SR's where everything is toggled off.

    Edit: Atleast this gives the other special groups an excuse to attend instead of being there for the sake of CLO being there with there utterly OP kill arrest and house spawns.

  • Why is it even needed by any of the special groups who already have access to decent weapons and vehicles?

    Don't answer "to make us unique", cuz thats just a lame excuse.

  • @Brophy said in HS back for CLO & DE:

    Why is it even needed by any of the special groups who already have access to decent weapons and vehicles?

    Don't answer "to make us unique", cuz thats just a lame excuse.

    Decent weapons? CLO Soldado (2nd rank) spawns with less weapons than a level 5 gang member, the only people in CLO who have dual weapons are Coronels, i am CLO since 2016, i still do not have access to duals. There are around 3-4 active CLO members who have access to those weapons, the rest of the ranks including mine spawn with the same weapons that any person in the server can get. The vehicles we have are mostly the same as a vehicle with V8 which yet again any normal player can get.
    Edit: Lets not forget the fact that criminals have access to headshot in San Fierro turfs, they cannot headshot cops but they still use headshot more frequently than CLO or DE does (we use it very rarely, CLO only uses it at wars which we're lucky if it happens once per month)

  • Both DE and CLO still have the ability to use headshots, it just needs to be supervised by someone with the ability to turn it on or off.
    After a discussion within SAES HQ it has been decided that the toggling system currently in place provides limitations necessary to keep general abuse to a minimum. The system will therefor stay in place for the time being.