Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review

  • @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I have many times over the last 7 years of being part of this community. I have not seen any be implemented, especially when a lot of the community agreed with some of my suggestions.

    All I see is SAES Admins saying 'Well why don't you suggest something instead of complainng'. Well we do suggest but the suggestion goes unanswered and ignored majority of the time. The proof can be seen in the suggestion area of this forum and the archive forum.

    We all know Discord is the place these days. You should perhaps request the Roundtabler role in our Discord and you'll then have access to this
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    Gets a lot more traction sometimes as it's filled with the people who don't have a life and Discord chat 24/7

  • @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    O would have died if they were given the same treatment as NNB

    No, it wouldn't

    A level 2 gang can do quite literally the same thing that a level 5 gang can
    A level 2 squad can do quite literally the same thing that a level 5 squad can

    The only main difference as you level up is an increase in a completely unused base, a second spawn and script which does nothing different to the first, and a billboard :omegalul:

    The difference is merely bragging rights

    But maybe you could sit there and make more memes about DE or something to pass the time idk, I guess criminal teamchat is a bit dull for you

    GM team hasn't demoted your gang even though you had only events posted continously on your media archive, not even speaking of turfs, bank robberies, jail breaks.

    This is however different with squads, the activities you can organize is limited to only a few things such as arresting people in groups, going to bank robberies and jails to die over and over again. Considering the server economy is fucked up, most cops even don't respond to these calls because people get bored of dying after some time. I don't know if you were a GM when NNB was demoted, you were probably inactive again? Check your GM forums.

    What you said about rewards doesn't concern me, we can probably agree the saes server which you're a member of its clan hasn't developed itself and been running with same main scripts for a while now. It seems reasonable to show this as one of the reasons but it's funny how it's coming from a SAES member.

    If I knew doing events would retain a level 5 squad's activity and keep it stable, I would have probably followed the Outfit's path and wouldn't even get noticed by the GM team.

    I've been making memes for a year, you couldn't only keep your gang's activity stable in-game, you couldn't keep your activity within the forums as well.

  • @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I have many times over the last 7 years of being part of this community. I have not seen any be implemented, especially when a lot of the community agreed with some of my suggestions.

    All I see is SAES Admins saying 'Well why don't you suggest something instead of complainng'. Well we do suggest but the suggestion goes unanswered and ignored majority of the time. The proof can be seen in the suggestion area of this forum and the archive forum.

    We all know Discord is the place these days. You should perhaps request the Roundtabler role in our Discord and you'll then have access to this
    alt text
    Gets a lot more traction sometimes as it's filled with the people who don't have a life and Discord chat 24/7

    Well I admit I do not use the Discord for suggesting ideas. However isn't the forums better as it can be tracked, correctly organised and be easy for developers to respond too?

  • @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I have many times over the last 7 years of being part of this community. I have not seen any be implemented, especially when a lot of the community agreed with some of my suggestions.

    All I see is SAES Admins saying 'Well why don't you suggest something instead of complainng'. Well we do suggest but the suggestion goes unanswered and ignored majority of the time. The proof can be seen in the suggestion area of this forum and the archive forum.

    We all know Discord is the place these days. You should perhaps request the Roundtabler role in our Discord and you'll then have access to this
    alt text
    Gets a lot more traction sometimes as it's filled with the people who don't have a life and Discord chat 24/7

    Well I admit I do not use the Discord for suggesting ideas. However isn't the forums better as it can be tracked, correctly organised and be easy for developers to respond too?

    If these ideas were actually implemented, people wouldn't be dming cops non-stop in front of LS jail due to their boredom

    It makes sense to give false hopes such as KATLA, VICE City server, economy reset but they never came to life

  • @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    GM team hasn't demoted your gang even though you had only events posted continously on your media archive, not even speaking of turfs, bank robberies, jail breaks.

    This is however different with squads, the activities you can organize is limited to only a few things such as arresting people in groups, going to bank robberies and jails to die over and over again. Considering the server economy is fucked up, most cops even don't respond to these calls because people get bored of dying after some time. I don't know if you were a GM when NNB was demoted, you were probably inactive again? Check your GM forums.

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    Just for starters I am not a gang manager anymore, I am a group manager, and I think it's been close to 3 years or maybe just 2 since I have been a gang manager so refrain from blaming your squads failure on me my good sir.
    At that time you were judged on things such as total number of w/e activity. Whether that be events, roleplays (omegalul), and how you behaved in the community, this one could especially effect you because if the meme topic was a ripe back then as it is now, players would be getting their gangs in trouble for their toxicity (/looks at Garcia[banned]). This ain't really the case anymore, and gangs are currently judged on statistical activity only. Doesn't matter if you don't BR and doesn't matter if you don't do events. So long as you log in, and you're total playtime is of X amount of hours (I don't know the number) then you're classed as active. O never failed this. Well, it was once 1 player under the required amount of 35 active players but we still had more total play time than other gangs. So no, O was never really inactive per say, we just didn't BR. Or... we couldn't because we had lost our main crackers to inactivity. People such as Nuno and Solrac have been practising a hell of a lot and this is now why we have the most bank robs completed. Granted, not the most successful but like I said, they're still practising and credit should given to them. Especially nuno, it's not often a PT player learns something new other than the latest Ronaldo celebration.
    But back to the point, these days if you don't BR you're classed by others as inactive, simple as that really.
    Every gang and every squad goes phases of activity and inactivity. Not too long ago it was Z and they pulled themselves back, and currently O is in the process of doing the same - we have great night time activity. There will be other gangs struggling with activity now, that's just the way it is. It goes around in circles because quite frankly there are too many official gangs, everyone fancies themselves to grow something themselves instead of just playing with another gang and helping that one grow.

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    If I knew doing events would retain a level 5 squad's activity and keep it stable, I would have probably followed the Outfit's path and wouldn't even get noticed by the GM team.

    Again, different timeline. It's stats now, not how many screenshots you can take. I don't like either method tbh, and I for one don't really even see the point in a levelling system anymore. The requirements, which I will admit are the ones I made a good few years ago, are now extremely outdated, but what can you do? 🤷
    Nobody wants the GM role anymore and I don't blame them. You're either set up to fail, or you have to deal with certain people who cry like a 2 year old child.

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    What you said about rewards doesn't concern me, we can probably agree the saes server which you're a member of its clan hasn't developed itself and been running with same main scripts for a while now. It seems reasonable to show this as one of the reasons but it's funny how it's coming from a SAES member.

    What I said about rewards was in response to you saying "bUt O wOUld bE DeAd iF it wAS trEAtEd liKe NnB". It didn't, and being around for so many years and going through so many GM teams, we've had our issues but have always responded to them.

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I've been making memes for a year, you couldn't only keep your gang's activity stable in-game, you couldn't keep your activity within the forums as well.

    I've actually been making memes for 13 months so your point is irrelevant you fucking boomer. And again, you're saying O couldn't keep it's activity, but it is active.
    Maybe if NNB faces O in a future gang wars we can settle it there. OH NO WAIT YOUR SHIT SQUAD IS DEAD

    KEKW

  • @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I have many times over the last 7 years of being part of this community. I have not seen any be implemented, especially when a lot of the community agreed with some of my suggestions.

    All I see is SAES Admins saying 'Well why don't you suggest something instead of complainng'. Well we do suggest but the suggestion goes unanswered and ignored majority of the time. The proof can be seen in the suggestion area of this forum and the archive forum.

    We all know Discord is the place these days. You should perhaps request the Roundtabler role in our Discord and you'll then have access to this
    alt text
    Gets a lot more traction sometimes as it's filled with the people who don't have a life and Discord chat 24/7

    Well I admit I do not use the Discord for suggesting ideas. However isn't the forums better as it can be tracked, correctly organised and be easy for developers to respond too?

    Is it not better to engage a Dev in a live chat? I imagine the main reason you don't get a response on the forum is because, well, forums are pretty dead these days aren't they? Discord is just easier.

  • @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    GM team hasn't demoted your gang even though you had only events posted continously on your media archive, not even speaking of turfs, bank robberies, jail breaks.

    This is however different with squads, the activities you can organize is limited to only a few things such as arresting people in groups, going to bank robberies and jails to die over and over again. Considering the server economy is fucked up, most cops even don't respond to these calls because people get bored of dying after some time. I don't know if you were a GM when NNB was demoted, you were probably inactive again? Check your GM forums.

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    Just for starters I am not a gang manager anymore, I am a group manager, and I think it's been close to 3 years or maybe just 2 since I have been a gang manager so refrain from blaming your squads failure on me my good sir.
    At that time you were judged on things such as total number of w/e activity. Whether that be events, roleplays (omegalul), and how you behaved in the community, this one could especially effect you because if the meme topic was a ripe back then as it is now, players would be getting their gangs in trouble for their toxicity (/looks at Garcia[banned]). This ain't really the case anymore, and gangs are currently judged on statistical activity only. Doesn't matter if you don't BR and doesn't matter if you don't do events. So long as you log in, and you're total playtime is of X amount of hours (I don't know the number) then you're classed as active. O never failed this. Well, it was once 1 player under the required amount of 35 active players but we still had more total play time than other gangs. So no, O was never really inactive per say, we just didn't BR. Or... we couldn't because we had lost our main crackers to inactivity. People such as Nuno and Solrac have been practising a hell of a lot and this is now why we have the most bank robs completed. Granted, not the most successful but like I said, they're still practising and credit should given to them. Especially nuno, it's not often a PT player learns something new other than the latest Ronaldo celebration.
    But back to the point, these days if you don't BR you're classed by others as inactive, simple as that really.
    Every gang and every squad goes phases of activity and inactivity. Not too long ago it was Z and they pulled themselves back, and currently O is in the process of doing the same - we have great night time activity. There will be other gangs struggling with activity now, that's just the way it is. It goes around in circles because quite frankly there are too many official gangs, everyone fancies themselves to grow something themselves instead of just playing with another gang and helping that one grow.

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    If I knew doing events would retain a level 5 squad's activity and keep it stable, I would have probably followed the Outfit's path and wouldn't even get noticed by the GM team.

    Again, different timeline. It's stats now, not how many screenshots you can take. I don't like either method tbh, and I for one don't really even see the point in a levelling system anymore. The requirements, which I will admit are the ones I made a good few years ago, are now extremely outdated, but what can you do? 🤷
    Nobody wants the GM role anymore and I don't blame them. You're either set up to fail, or you have to deal with certain people who cry like a 2 year old child.

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    What you said about rewards doesn't concern me, we can probably agree the saes server which you're a member of its clan hasn't developed itself and been running with same main scripts for a while now. It seems reasonable to show this as one of the reasons but it's funny how it's coming from a SAES member.

    What I said about rewards was in response to you saying "bUt O wOUld bE DeAd iF it wAS trEAtEd liKe NnB". It didn't, and being around for so many years and going through so many GM teams, we've had our issues but have always responded to them.

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I've been making memes for a year, you couldn't only keep your gang's activity stable in-game, you couldn't keep your activity within the forums as well.

    I've actually been making memes for 13 months so your point is irrelevant you fucking boomer. And again, you're saying O couldn't keep it's activity, but it is active.
    Maybe if NNB faces O in a future gang wars we can settle it there. OH NO WAIT YOUR SHIT SQUAD IS DEAD

    KEKW

    I haven't brought the matter up, your member did it nor have I blamed anyone for the death of a squad I was HQ in. Eventually people get bored on a server that's been running with the same script for years, and as a plus the game is pretty old. I would have agreed with it one way or another but while other gangs(the level doesn't matter) are trying to adapt to the GM's requirements system, gangs such as yours don't complete the gang activities(turfs, bank robberies and on) and posts only events on their media archive for months and get away with it and stay at level five. I was actively playing the server at the time and all I could see was Snome shooting around the server. The way you're saying that your gang was active is pretty odd though, as far as I can remember, people were calling you guys inactive and you were pretty much memed before I started making memes about you. I guess you're the only one aware of your gang's activity or the community hasn't been checking your activity for a while.

    It's a nice accomplishment that your gang could finally retain their activity after almost a year of not getting demoted nor warned by the GM team, that sounds cough quite normal cough to everyone. By the way I can try to gather up the old NNB peeps if you want to have a lounge match. Be aware of what you wish for because last time SWAT asked for it, not only did we pull a rampage on their team, we left the match victorious. I don't guarantee that your gang wouldn't be memed after the matches but I would rather not have a serious discussion because of the memes I made again.

  • You're majorly missing the point. Can you see the stats in the very first page on this topic you have so graciously posted in?
    Those are pulled from a database by Nano (usually)
    There is also one that gives stats for each gangs playtime. GMs were using these stats to determine who they felt was active or not. O was gucci with this every time. I'm not saying it's right, nor do I even remotely give a shit, I'm just saying it how it is because again you seem to have completely missed the point.

    If you had even been posting memes for the past year, as you have been so proudly saying, you would have noticed that I myself have been enjoying them, and I have even agreed that at the time I didn't see O as level 5.

    Here is your reference;
    https://saesrpg.uk/post/130194

    Also in response to you taking a war seriously,
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  • @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    You're majorly missing the point. Can you see the stats in the very first page on this topic you have so graciously posted in?
    Those are pulled from a database by Nano (usually)
    There is also one that gives stats for each gangs playtime. GMs were using these stats to determine who they felt was active or not. O was gucci with this every time. I'm not saying it's right, nor do I even remotely give a shit, I'm just saying it how it is because again you seem to have completely missed the point.

    If you had even been posting memes for the past year, as you have been so proudly saying, you would have noticed that I myself have been enjoying them, and I have even agreed that at the time I didn't see O as level 5.

    Here is your reference;
    https://saesrpg.uk/post/130194

    Also in response to you taking a war seriously,
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    I haven't said that I'm proud of it, that was a reference to what you said earlier. I don't think I've missed the point, you've become active for only a month and you're just using that point from the very beggining of your speech. What I'm saying is that it took you a great deal of time and GM's being blind for a while. According to the old stats, you weren't even a threat and you can view the charts yourself. https://saesrpg.uk/topic/11750/department-of-homeland-security-bank-statistics/2

    I took it seriously because you seemed pretty much dedicated in justifying that Outfit was an active gang. On the other hand, if you scroll up to what I said, I was referring to how you went through past months with an activity that isn't fit for a level 5 gang(that's how i see given the gang requirements written by gang managers). I've been speaking of activities for hours I thought you could figure out that my comments are based on the requirements.

    I pretty much cba to keep the arguement from now on if you still tend to keep it up, that's up to you.

    im writing in paragraphs to show my gang is very active this month but im not serious

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  • I won't take credit for the next one

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    I'm done anyways, you've embarrassed yourself enough

  • @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I won't take credit for the next one

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    I'm done anyways, you've embarrassed yourself enough

    I've embarrassed myself just because I said that Outfit was inactive gang? Great mindset and fun you're having on your discord.

    tell nuno to stop calling saes admins whenever he's in trouble

  • @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I pretty much cba to keep the arguement from now on if you still tend to keep it up, that's up to you.

  • @Jay said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Deu said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    I pretty much cba to keep the arguement from now on if you still tend to keep it up, that's up to you.

    that wasnt the part of the arguement though i wasn't being serious top kek

  • You forget that Jay is just a troll. Like a lot of people in this community.

    Looks like one as well.

  • alot of bullshit around here, and all came from o niggas trying to be smartasses.

  • "dont warn us, we will invite half of criminals"
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  • @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    You forget that Jay is just a troll. Like a lot of people in this community.

    Looks like one as well.

    At least I'm not black

    ...

    @Garcia1999 said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    alot of bullshit around here, and all came from o niggas trying to be smartasses.

    ...
    wigga pls

  • all we need is joshbosh to clear all kanlers : D

  • @Bartman Joshbosh would hate the current state of the server. Controlled by Kain and Joe. He and Boston I would imagine would just hate it.

  • @Joshbond said in Department of Homeland Security - Bank Review:

    @Bartman Joshbosh would hate the current state of the server. Controlled by Kain and Joe. He and Boston I would imagine would just hate it.

    if rennie would be active than joshbosh & boston become saes = bann all kanker admins : D